Biden is out!

[stryder]

I would support a soulful visionary with just a few general policy goals over a narcissistic sociopath with all the policy goals in the world. Every time. Policy is a matter of learning and pragmatism and working well with others. Sociopathy and narcissism otoh are inborn and permanent and fails at everything.

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

It won't let me cut and pastw   but he is promising "you won't have to vote again"

ss

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

Sleep easy,children?

ps no formatting on this site?

"...And the shares of Koolaid plummets, as the price and purchase of of it goes up.... Maybe theirs a gate opening the otherside of that demagogue." J/king.

Seriously though, he might of just been refering to being the last time he runs. It doesn't mean you won't necessarily vote in the future, just it won't be for him.

[geordief]

I would support a soulful visionary with just a few general policy goals over a narcissistic sociopath with all the policy goals in the world. Every time. Policy is a matter of learning and pragmatism and working well with others. Sociopathy and narcissism otoh are inborn and permanent and fails at everything.

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

It won't let me cut and pastw   but he is promising "you won't have to vote again"

ss

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

Sleep easy,children?

ps no formatting on this site?

"...And the shares of Koolaid plummets, as the price and purchase of of it goes up....  Maybe theirs a gate opening the otherside of that demagogue." J/king.

Seriously though, he might of just been refering to being the last time he runs.  It doesn't mean you won't necessarily vote in the future, just it won't be for him.

Will anyone ask him and get a straight reply?

Some of his supporters are  looking forward to 2028 and a third term.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/trump-2028/

"This is plainly unfair. Indeed, there has long been support for axing the Twenty-second Amendment due to the artificial limits it places on voter choice"

"Vote for (sarcastic) dictatorship !Move the constitutional goalposts!" (wonder how they would like it if the tables were turned and USA  had 20 more years of Obama- are they possibly keeping their powder dry and hoping the Dems are nice and stupid?)

ps sorry  didn't understand the K/king quote.

[C C]

I would support a soulful visionary with just a few general policy goals over a narcissistic sociopath with all the policy goals in the world. Every time. Policy is a matter of learning and pragmatism and working well with others. Sociopathy and narcissism otoh are inborn and permanent and fails at everything.

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

It won't let me cut and pastw   but he is promising "you won't have to vote again"

ss

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

Sleep easy,children?

ps no formatting on this site?

"...And the shares of Koolaid plummets, as the price and purchase of of it goes up.... Maybe theirs a gate opening the otherside of that demagogue." J/king.

Seriously though, he might of just been refering to being the last time he runs. It doesn't mean you won't necessarily vote in the future, just it won't be for him.

In comparison to socialists and even corrupt Christians, Trump is so horribly bad and obviously pretentious at the do-gooder game that it highlights how people have to be voting for him for more practical reasons. Whatever actual meat agenda he promises (fullfillable or not) rather than that sterile emotional fluff which any political campaign dispenses to some degree.

Ironically, the "positive messages" of certain opportunistically phony itinerant and television Christian evangelists of the past is a good part of the reason why I tune out when it comes to politicians heavily dependent on similarly dispensing do-gooder and utopian-missionary propaganda.

Potential sphincters still provide historical data about intellectual movements (like Lenin in Materialism and Empiro-criticism). As Stirner observed back in the earlier days of the Left, the latter had adopted the same [generic] toolkit of bait and gimmicks under a secular banner that power-hungry religious factions depended on to seduce and manipulate.

Max Stirner: "The world belongs to all”? [...] But you make a phantasm out of the “all” and make it sacred, so that then “all” become the awful masters of the individual. Then the ghost of “right” stands at their side.

That is why they [communists] are continuations and consequences of the Christian principle, the principle of love, of sacrifice for something universal, something alien. They complete, for example, in property, only what has long existed in the matter—namely the propertylessness of individuals.

[...] The king is the property owner, because he alone can dispose of and deal with “everything”; he has potestas and imperium over it. The communists make this clearer in that they transfer that imperium to the “society of all.”

So: Since they’re enemies of egoism, they are therefore Christians, or more generally, religious people, believers in ghosts, dependents, servants of whatever universal [abstract concept/dogma] (God, society, etc.).

[geordief]

I would support a soulful visionary with just a few general policy goals over a narcissistic sociopath with all the policy goals in the world. Every time. Policy is a matter of learning and pragmatism and working well with others. Sociopathy and narcissism otoh are inborn and permanent and fails at everything.

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

It won't let me cut and pastw   but he is promising "you won't have to vote again"

ss

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

Sleep easy,children?

ps no formatting on this site?

"...And the shares of Koolaid plummets, as the price and purchase of of it goes up....  Maybe theirs a gate opening the otherside of that demagogue." J/king.

Seriously though, he might of just been refering to being the last time he runs.  It doesn't mean you won't necessarily vote in the future, just it won't be for him.

In comparison to socialists and even corrupt Christians, Trump is so horribly bad and obviously pretentious at the do-gooder game that it highlights how people have to be voting for him for more practical reasons (whatever actual meat agenda he promises [even it merely obstructs their opponents] rather than that sterile emotional fluff which any political campaign dispenses to some degree). 

Ironically, the "positive messages" of certain opportunistically phony itinerant and television Christian evangelists of the past is a good part of the reason why I tune out when it comes to politicians heavily dependent on similarly dispensing do-gooder and utopian-missionary propaganda.

As Stirner observed back in the earlier days of the Left, the latter had adopted the same toolkit of bait and gimmicks under a secular banner that power-hungry religious factions depended on to seduce and manipulate. 

Max Stirner: "The world belongs to all”? [...] But you make a phantasm out of the “all” and make it sacred, so that then “all” become the awful masters of the individual. Then the ghost of “right” stands at their side.

That is why they [communists] are continuations and consequences of the Christian principle, the principle of love, of sacrifice for something universal, something alien. They complete, for example, in property, only what has long existed in the matter—namely the propertylessness of individuals.

[...] The king is the property owner, because he alone can dispose of and deal with “everything”; he has potestas and imperium over it. The communists make this clearer in that they transfer that imperium to the “society of all.”

So: Since they’re enemies of egoism, they are therefore Christians, or more generally, religious people, believers in ghosts, dependents, servants of whatever universal [abstract concept/dogma] (God, society, etc.).

It seems to me that you are quite blase about the threat from Trump and his supporters to  the future of democracy in America.
Perhaps your view is that it is so embryonic as to not be worth saving or fighting for?

The Dems are no better than the Republicans?

Securalism is no better than religious propaganda because it breathes the same air?

[Secular Sanity]

I would support a soulful visionary with just a few general policy goals over a narcissistic sociopath with all the policy goals in the world. Every time. Policy is a matter of learning and pragmatism and working well with others. Sociopathy and narcissism otoh are inborn and permanent and fails at everything.

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

It won't let me cut and pastw   but he is promising "you won't have to vote again"

ss

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

Sleep easy,children?

ps no formatting on this site?

https://www.youtube.com/live/ghEIj7jS6qI?t=3620s

Based on the context provided, it appears that Trump is encouraging Christian voters to participate in the upcoming election, emphasizing the importance of their vote in this specific instance. He is suggesting that if they vote this time, they may not need to vote in the same urgent manner in the future, implying that their vote will have a lasting impact or resolve the issues they are concerned about.

[C C]

It seems to me that you are quite blase about the threat from Trump and his supporters to  the future of democracy in America.
Perhaps your view is that it is so embryonic as to not be worth saving or fighting for?

The Dems are no better than the Republicans?

Securalism is no better than religious propaganda because it breathes the same air?

Secularism (or non-theism, if need be) in general is not left-wing, though. That's an error of mistaking one of the narrower or specific mulitple contents of a category for the broad category itself.[1]

"Trump versus whoever" is a coin flip between the known and the continued unknown. (The latter in terms of what literary intellectuals conducting lab-rat experiments on society will ultimately produce -- or rather, what the political followers of their ideas are conducting. And that includes any rising support for decolonization of knowledge.) 

And by "known" I'm not just referring to Trump already having been president once.

Trump is an atavist -- he's the type of POTUS the country had for the largest part of its history, up until at least the 1970s (IOW, a known and survivable factor). That's excluding his adolescent outer personality (which undermines him, in contrast to the mature deceptive skills that his predecessors possessed). And excluding the benefit that bygone political leaders enjoyed with respect to their dark secrets being more difficult to access back then (for instance, journalists feeling obligated to protect the public from JFK's private exploits in that era -- the opposite of now).

[Magical Realist]

I would support a soulful visionary with just a few general policy goals over a narcissistic sociopath with all the policy goals in the world. Every time. Policy is a matter of learning and pragmatism and working well with others. Sociopathy and narcissism otoh are inborn and permanent and fails at everything.

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

It won't let me cut and pastw   but he is promising "you won't have to vote again"

ss

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

Sleep easy,children?

ps no formatting on this site?

At first I thought he was referring to the rapture and the apocalypse since he was talking to Christians. But now I just don't know what he is implying. Just typical Trumpian vagaries.

Edit: Just read that he was responding to the claim that Christians don't like to vote. So that's probably what he's referring to.

[Syne]

What do you make of this?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-cry...cond-term/

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians” he added.

“I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.

https://www.youtube.com/live/ghEIj7jS6qI?t=3620s

Based on the context provided, it appears that Trump is encouraging Christian voters to participate in the upcoming election, emphasizing the importance of their vote in this specific instance. He is suggesting that if they vote this time, they may not need to vote in the same urgent manner in the future, implying that their vote will have a lasting impact or resolve the issues they are concerned about.

^This.

[Yazata]

SS is right. Trump was just telling them that if they believe that there's currently a big cultural challenge to their beliefs coming from the left, then vote for him. Hopefully the challenge will have subsided by the time the next election rolls around.

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It seems to me that you are quite blase about the threat from Trump and his supporters to  the future of democracy in America.

I don't perceive Trump or his supporters as threats to American democracy. Just the opposite, I see them as perhaps the last hope America has to preserve its democracy and freedoms.

The Dems are no better than the Republicans?

The dems are worse, a lot worse.

The Republicans haven't politicized the FBI to the point where it's indistinguishable from Russia's FSB. They haven't created a two-tier justice system weaponized against political opponents, while they and theirs get away with virtually anything. The Republicans favor free speech and haven't tried to censor the media. The Republicans aren't constantly rioting in the streets, holding the threat of political violence over their political enemies' heads. (Antifa are today's brown shirts.)

The Republicans favor letting the people decide for themselves what kind of society they want to live in. That's the Essence of Democracy. (It's also why State's Rights are so important, since it prevents the 'tyranny of the majority' given everyone will never agree, and allows diversity to flourish.)

That's true even for those would-be neo-aristocrats (celebrities, editors, professors, bureaucrats, "progressives") who dispise (and fear) what they perceive as the rabble. Republicans oppose the efforts of various elites who believe (it's nothing but a belief, there's nothing objective about it) that their own moral intuitions are better than those of the people themselves, giving these self-appointed "philosopher kings" the right to dictate the direction that the country takes and what the people are allowed to do and even to think.

It's nothing new, it's right there in Plato's Republic, in the practices of the inquisition, in the pretensions of communism's "vanguard party", and ultimately ends up in Orwell's 1984.

That's the political battle that we are fighting today, in my view.

[Yazata]

The Finns know!

In Finnish:

https://glosbe.com/fi/en/kamala

Translation of "kamala" into English
terrible, ghastly, dire are the top translations of "kamala" into English. Sample translated sentence: En tiedä millainen otus pitää niin kamalaa melua ulkona tänä iltana. ↔ I don't know what kind of creature is making such a terrible noise outside tonight.

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terrible  adjective
very bad [..]

En tiedä millainen otus pitää niin kamalaa melua ulkona tänä iltana.

I don't know what kind of creature is making such a terrible noise outside tonight.

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ghastly  adjective
horrifyingly shocking [..]

Osan jonka olin kokonaan unohtanut koska loppu oli niin kamala.

A part I'd completely forgotten about because the rest was so ghastly.

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dire  adjective
expressing bad consequences [..]

Mutta jos mielessänne on lepääminen, sanoisin, ettei tilanteenne ole kamala.

But if resting was on your mind, I'd say your situation wasn't as dire.

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LESS FREQUENT TRANSLATIONS

awful
horrid
impossible
horrible
dreaded
dreadful
atrocious
frightful
ugly
unspeakable
rotten
abysmal
crappy
dismal
evil
horrendous
nasty
shitty
Kamala
painful
lousy
hellish
tremendous
beastly
abominable
awesome
stinky
icky
Red Kamala
amazing
awe-inspiring
awing
god-awful
horrifying
stinking

(Of course, to be fair, 'kamala' means 'lotus' in Pali (and I assume Sanskrit). Kamala's mother is from India.)