Israel-Gaza War (and Iranian Distractions)

Syne Offline
(Jun 18, 2025 03:56 PM)stryder Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2025 03:11 PM)Syne Wrote: Then explain to me how the US is supposed to unseat Putin without risking WWIII and possibly nuclear war.
You know, if you've thought it through any further than a child would.

The myth of being untouchable would be broken, if those that perpetuate such myths are proven to be touched.

That's some vague bullshit. How do you "touch" the leader of a nuclear power?
Do you have any suggestion on how to do so while retaining plausible deniability to avoid WWIII/nuclear war?

Or are you just living in la-la land while projecting about "myths?"
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confused2 Offline
touched (informal): slightly mad; crazy.
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stryder Offline
(Jun 18, 2025 05:33 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2025 03:56 PM)stryder Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2025 03:11 PM)Syne Wrote: Then explain to me how the US is supposed to unseat Putin without risking WWIII and possibly nuclear war.
You know, if you've thought it through any further than a child would.

The myth of being untouchable would be broken, if those that perpetuate such myths are proven to be touched.

That's some vague bullshit. How do you "touch" the leader of a nuclear power?
Do you have any suggestion on how to do so while retaining plausible deniability to avoid WWIII/nuclear war?

Or are you just living in la-la land while projecting about "myths?"

How many times do you get a straight answer out of Trump?
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Syne Offline
(Jun 18, 2025 05:41 PM)stryder Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2025 05:33 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2025 03:56 PM)stryder Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2025 03:11 PM)Syne Wrote: Then explain to me how the US is supposed to unseat Putin without risking WWIII and possibly nuclear war.
You know, if you've thought it through any further than a child would.

The myth of being untouchable would be broken, if those that perpetuate such myths are proven to be touched.

That's some vague bullshit. How do you "touch" the leader of a nuclear power?
Do you have any suggestion on how to do so while retaining plausible deniability to avoid WWIII/nuclear war?

Or are you just living in la-la land while projecting about "myths?"

How many times do you get a straight answer out of Trump?

So you have no answer, rationale, or plan for unseating Putin... just a child making demands.
Got it.

Trump shoots pretty damn straight. If you're confused about something, maybe you'd should just come out with it.
For example, are you confused over Trump not wanting Iran to get nuclear weapons? He's been saying it since his 2016 announcement to run for president, in June 2015. That's whole decade of consistent, straight answers.
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Yazata Offline
Still no US military action.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that President Trump has approved an attack plan but is holding off giving the final order in hopes that Iran will finally agree to give up its nuclear weapons program. (Very little chance of that.) But Iran has contacted him and asked for a meeting at the White House. They might be stalling for time, but the US might be as well since American military forces are still getting into position.

A US aircraft landed in Israel today to evacuate non-essential US diplomatic staff and dependents.

No recent changes at Diego Garcia. There are two US B-52's there along with 6 KC-135 aerial refueling tankers, but they have been there for weeks.
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Yazata Offline
The Pentagon Pizza Report is reporting unusual late night business at the Little Caesar's outside McDill Air Fprce Base in Tampa Florida, home of CENTCOM, the US Central Command which has military responsibility for the Middle East. Looks like an unusual number of people there are working late.


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confused2 Offline
If you had a bomb designed specifically for blowing up nuke factories built in caves in Iran far off countries and a very expensive bomber designed to carry those bombs to Iran far off countries and there was just such a nuke factory in a cave in Iran a far off country - would you use that bomb?
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Yazata Offline
(Jun 19, 2025 10:53 AM)confused2 Wrote: If you had a bomb designed specifically for blowing up nuke factories built in caves in Iran far off countries and a very expensive bomber designed to carry those bombs to Iran far off countries and there was just such a nuke factory in a cave in Iran a far off country - would you use that bomb?

Huh  Big Grin
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Yazata Offline
Still no US military action.

American military assets continue to get into position for what might be a bigger campaign than a single strategic bomber strike on the Fordow uranium enrichment plant.

The USS Nimitz carrier battle group is expected to enter the area on Sunday.

Several US aerial refueling tankers with callsigns used by tankers refueling strategic bombers left Travis AFB near Sacramento headed west over the Pacific.

At least 20 C-17 transport aircraft departed from various European military bases bound for various Middle Eastern countries including Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE. They are believed to have been carrying American air defense missile batteries to help defend these countries from possible Iranian missile/air/drone attack in retaliation for helping the US.


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Meanwhile, Israel and Iran continue to trade blows. While Iranian missile attacks are much smaller than they were at first, many more Iranian missiles are getting through than initially. The reason seems to be that Israel is running low on intercepter rockets and is trying to conserve them by firing fewer of them.

Hence there are more impacts and more damage in Israel.

Several Iranian missiles hit in the Beersheva area about 40 miles south of Tel Aviv. One hit one of Israel's largest and most prominent hospitals (where the released Gaza hostages were taken previously). Casualties in that one seem to have been considerable.

Another missile hit in a tech-industry industrial park in Beersheva, causing relatively minor blast damage to several buildings:


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Another missile hit a parking lot right in front of a Beersheva apartment building:


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And up in Haifa, Israel's main port city about 40 miles north of Tel Aviv, a missile hit close to a major interior ministry building, ironically causing considerable damage to a mosque:


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Unconfirmed reports say that B-2 stealth bombers have taken off from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. Unknown yet how many or whether this is a combat deployment.
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Syne Offline
Trump has given Iran a deadline of two weeks to surrender.
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