It should be considered that some of the protests were done peacefully by people that didn't want violence and there is a likelihood that some people might of been there for that during that time period, maybe even supporting a peaceful approach. But thats the problem with the "Right-Left divide" that was only created by Trump so he could turn the US vote into a coin toss (near 50/50). (A gross simplification of a system that would otherwise be more complex and difficult to win, even if only through gambling)
C COct 18, 2026 04:09 PM (This post was last modified: Oct 18, 2026 04:10 PM by C C.)
(Oct 17, 2026 11:41 PM)Yazata Wrote: Predictably, the BBC World Service asked their French correspondent if there was any sign of "far-right" violence, and the correspondent said 'none'. It's all the far-left.
Marxism in Europe just needed the revolutionary blood of Islamo-socialism spiked up its veins to get back on track to the glory days.
The Louvre and other museums in Paris will be closed this weekend in anticipation of more riots.
70,000 police have been surged into the city. Which is unlikely to do much good, unless the police are given more robust rules of engagement. If they keep retreating whenever a mob confronts them, it won't matter how many of them there are.
And where did those 70,000 police come from? I'm guessing that many smaller locations outside Paris have been stripped of their cops.
YazataYesterday 06:03 AM (This post was last modified: Yesterday 06:33 AM by Yazata.)
Today the riots are back for Halloween. In Paris, Marseille and other French cities. And in Germany as well. Even in Zurich Switzerland.
It's hard to know, but I sense that the crowds are smaller than a couple of weeks ago. There seem to be fewer regular people and more of those dressed-in-black antifa types. And the police seem to be more forceful, not hesitant to use their truncheons.
It really looks to me like none of this is spontaneous. It's being organized by somebody. The French security services really need to find out who that is.
C CYesterday 04:05 PM (This post was last modified: Yesterday 04:11 PM by C C.)
(Yesterday 06:03 AM)Yazata Wrote: [...] It really looks to me like none of this is spontaneous. It's being organized by somebody. The French security services really need to find out who that is. [...]
Hopefully so. Propaganda of the deed relies on social contagion to implement scattered rebellion, violence, theft, and destruction. Lenin and Trotsky didn't like it because the public loses confidence in a revolution that looks like no one is really steering it. With perpetual chaos looming rather than indicating a new system to replace the oppressive one being overthrown. However, even if there is a central agency coordinating the activity of all these distinct anarchist and socialist antifa cells, it still kind of looks like wild and unruly POTD. Thanks to the social tech of this era, these various cliques could still be synchronizing without cardinal control.
#Relationship to revolution: Propaganda of the deed thus included stealing (in particular bank robberies – named "expropriations" or "revolutionary expropriations" to finance political activity), rioting and general strikes which aimed at creating the conditions of an insurrection or even a revolution. These acts were justified as the necessary counterpart to state repression.
As early as 1911, Leon Trotsky condemned individual acts of violence by anarchists as useful for little more than providing an excuse for state repression. "The anarchist prophets of the 'propaganda of the deed' can argue all they want about the elevating and stimulating influence of terrorist acts on the masses," he wrote in 1911, "Theoretical considerations and political experience prove otherwise."
Vladimir Lenin largely agreed, viewing individual anarchist acts of terrorism as an ineffective substitute for coordinated action by disciplined cadres of the masses. Both Lenin and Trotsky acknowledged the necessity of violent rebellion and assassination to serve as a catalyst for revolution, but they distinguished between the ad hoc bombings and assassinations carried out by proponents of the propaganda of the deed and organized violence coordinated by a professional revolutionary vanguard utilized for that specific end.
[...] POTD: Propaganda of the deed, or propaganda by the deed, is a type of direct action intended to influence public opinion. The action itself is meant to serve as an example for others to follow, acting as a catalyst for social revolution.
It is often associated with acts of violence perpetrated by various anarchists in the late 19th and early 20th century, including bombings and assassinations aimed at the state, the ruling class in a spirit of anti-capitalism, and church arsons targeting religious groups, even though propaganda of the deed also has non-violent applications.
These acts of terrorism were intended to ignite a "spirit of revolt" by demonstrating the state, the middle and upper classes, and religious organizations were not omnipotent as well as to provoke the State to become escalatingly repressive in its response. The 1881 London Social Revolutionary Congress gave the tactic its approval.
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