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The below exhibits a spirit of inclusiveness, in that it indirectly suggests or inspires expanding the designation of militant[1] skeptics or "skeptical activity" to embrace those with a pre-existing preference to reject proposals, evaluations, and evidence for a UAP being of more ordinary porvenance or non-other-worldly in origin. In the interests of social justice advancement, this is something to be cognizant of in the future -- of avoiding myopic focus on a single ideological population group to plug into the conceptual placeholder. (FOOTNOTE: [1] Seems pretty militant to me, anyway, if they're "attacking" committee members. Wink)
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NASA holds its first public meeting on UFOs
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/nation...211939d306

EXCERPT: “I want to emphasize this loud and proud: There is absolutely no convincing evidence for extraterrestrial life associated with” unidentified objects, NASA's Dan Evans said after the meeting.

Still, hundreds of questions from the public that poured in ahead of time were skeptical and veered into conspiracy theories.

NASA launched the study to probe what it calls UAPs — short for unexplained anomalous phenomena — in the sky, in space or under the sea.

Optical illusions can explain some of this, said Kelly, a former Navy fighter pilot. He recalled a Tomcat flight off Virginia Beach years ago during which his radar intercept officer in the back seat was convinced they’d flown past a UFO.

“It turns out it was Bart Simpson, a balloon,” Kelly said. “And in my experience, the sensors kind of have the same issues as the people’s eyeballs.”

Evans pointed out that the livestream of the meeting led to considerable trolling. That comes on top of “online abuse" directed toward several committee members.

Harassment detracts from the scientific process and reinforces the stigma surrounding the topic, said Evans, adding that NASA security is dealing with it.. (MORE - missing details)

NASA debunks UFOs seen in new video ... https://youtu.be/94nMAWcC-yU

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/94nMAWcC-yU
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#52
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Apparently expects to get more out of Grusch directly than what anybody else has.
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(Avi Loeb) All habitable worlds come to an end
https://thedebrief.org/all-habitable-wor...to-an-end/

EXCERPTS: . . . During the red giant phase, humanity could migrate on an artificially-made space platform to maintain its Goldilocks’ distance from the brightening Sun. Having nuclear reactors on the platform would enable humans to eventually escape the solar system when the sun dims to a white dwarf.

Civilizations that were not fortunate enough to board a Noah’s ark of this type might have cried for help but we were not around to hear them. [...] Alternatively, we could discover probes from alien civilizations that out of final desperation allocated all their economic resources towards venturing into interstellar space. Do we see any of their objects near Earth?

Our intelligence and military agencies would be the first to notice rare unusual objects near Earth because their day job is to monitor the sky. Astronomers, on the other hand, ignore fast-moving objects that cross the sky above their telescopes. Could a small fraction of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs) flagged by military and intelligence personnel, be of extraterrestrial origin? This is the question that the Galileo Project Observatory at Harvard University is addressing right now by using machine learning software to analyze images...

A few days ago, I had the privilege of a long conversation that lasted more than an hour with David Grusch, who recently testified under oath to the US Congress about programs within the government for crash retrieval and reverse engineering of alien spacecraft. Any related findings would save me time and effort in retrieving the evidence myself within the coming decades.

David and I hope that any such evidence will eventually be shared with scientists who can make sense of what it means. What lies outside the solar system should not be hidden behind the veil of national security [...] Learning from interstellar survivors might be critical for making contingency plans in anticipation of the time when the habitability of our own world will come to an end.... (MORE - missing details)
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#53
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My favorite head scratching UFO video is of the cube flying past a jetliner. Don't have time to find it on YouTube right now but it's there. The only reason I like this one is because there's another video out there of exactly the same object from another part of the world. Unfortunately I can't remember all the circumstances surrounding that sighting so have not seen that video in a long time. Just struck me odd that in both instances the objects looked exactly like one another.
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#55
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(Dec 15, 2023 11:55 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Cube or polygonal shaped uap caught by a jetliner pilot on his cellphone. Speculations tend to cluster around a dark solar balloon, but the high altitude of the uap isn't typical of those:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHMQDqxFRY&t=5s

That vid I’ve seen recently but there’s another one out there with that same cube whizzing around. Not sure if it’s alien or if some earthling put in the sky only to have it filmed in two different places.

I’m thinking it would only take a very small percentage of all UAP sightings to be alien to figure out our existence is well known in the cosmos.
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The UFO movement sees otherworldly growth
https://www.wsj.com/science/space-astron..._permalink

EXCERPTS: For many years, the Connecticut chapter of America’s largest UFO research group investigated alien life on Earth from the shadows. That wasn’t by choice—it was because almost nobody ever came to meetings in a suburban basement just outside of Hartford.

But times are changing. [...] “Back when I was in court a lot, I tried to share my ideas about UFOs with other lawyers and professionals, but people weren’t receptive,” Spear said. “Today though, you can talk to pretty much anyone about UFOs.”

The man has a point: There’s probably never been a better time to believe in aliens than right now. That’s mostly because the federal government quietly admitted in April 2020 that several Navy pilots have encountered “unidentified aerial phenomena,” or UAPs, while flying around the Pacific Ocean. The feds released videos and say they still have no idea who was flying them or where they came from.

Congress followed up with a hearing in 2022 on UAPs, its first probe into flying saucers in 50 years. [...] “We are living in a watershed moment,” says Dr. Christopher Bader, a sociologist at Chapman University in southern California who studies American beliefs in the paranormal. The hearings before Congress “have legitimized the discussion of UFOs in a way that is virtually unprecedented.”

With little green men now a subject of serious scrutiny on Capitol Hill, aliens are taking over the American mind. Skepticism is declining, with 34% of Americans believing UFOs are probably alien ships or are controlled by nonhuman life-forms in 2022, compared with 20% in 1996, according to polls by YouGov and Newsweek. (UFOs, by the way, are doing far better with acceptance than Big Foot, the Yeti, or the Loch Ness monster, pollsters found.)

The new acolytes are constantly exchanging ideas about extraterrestrial life online, often connecting with thousands of other enthusiasts on Reddit, Twitter, or Discord to discuss reams of government documents, video footage and other evidence that there may be life beyond Earth. On social media, “UAP” has become a whole new buzzword among the internet savvy that’s effectively replacing the acronym “UFO.” A four-part docuseries called “Encounters” about alien sightings, directed by Yon Motskin, was ’s most viewed television show in the U.S. after it was released this fall.

Colleges are also offering related lessons: “Following the release of the U.S. Pentagon UFO report, there has been a surge of interest,” says a description for a University of Michigan online course titled, “UFOs: Scanning the Skies.”

[...] The government’s admissions have changed the game for UFO enthusiasts... (MORE - missing details)
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