Posts: 8,538
Threads: 178
Joined: Aug 2016
Syne
Jun 25, 2022 11:48 PM
(This post was last modified: Jun 25, 2022 11:49 PM by Syne.)
(Jun 25, 2022 11:45 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 11:41 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 10:56 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The fetus becomes a "being" when it becomes a fetus. It is just a temporary phase of development, not the end result. Like how the oak tree is the end result of the development of the acorn. The human being is the end result of the development of the fetus and occurs at birth.
So what's the difference between a premature birth and a baby brought to term?
Does the birth canal magically imbue it with "beingness?" Or in the case of C-section, is "beingness" just inhaled with the first breath of air? Is "beingness" in the air?
I have no idea what you are talking about. Define "beingness".
You're the one who used the word "being." If you don't know what you mean by it, then you obviously have no cogent point.
But if it becomes a "being" upon becoming a fetus, than you think abortion should be banned after eight weeks, right?
Posts: 9,099
Threads: 2,030
Joined: Oct 2014
Magical Realist
Jun 25, 2022 11:49 PM
(Jun 25, 2022 11:48 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 11:45 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 11:41 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 10:56 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The fetus becomes a "being" when it becomes a fetus. It is just a temporary phase of development, not the end result. Like how the oak tree is the end result of the development of the acorn. The human being is the end result of the development of the fetus and occurs at birth.
So what's the difference between a premature birth and a baby brought to term?
Does the birth canal magically imbue it with "beingness?" Or in the case of C-section, is "beingness" just inhaled with the first breath of air? Is "beingness" in the air?
I have no idea what you are talking about. Define "beingness".
You're the one who used the word "being." If you don't know what you mean by it, then you obviously have no cogent point.
LOL. Buzz off turd breath...
Posts: 8,538
Threads: 178
Joined: Aug 2016
Syne
Jun 26, 2022 12:59 AM
(Jun 25, 2022 11:49 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 11:48 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 11:45 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 11:41 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 10:56 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The fetus becomes a "being" when it becomes a fetus. It is just a temporary phase of development, not the end result. Like how the oak tree is the end result of the development of the acorn. The human being is the end result of the development of the fetus and occurs at birth.
So what's the difference between a premature birth and a baby brought to term?
Does the birth canal magically imbue it with "beingness?" Or in the case of C-section, is "beingness" just inhaled with the first breath of air? Is "beingness" in the air?
I have no idea what you are talking about. Define "beingness".
You're the one who used the word "being." If you don't know what you mean by it, then you obviously have no cogent point.
LOL. Buzz off turd breath...
Apparently asking you to simply define words you used (after trying to throw that onus on me, as if I know what you're trying to say when you clearly don't) incites you to insults.
That sounds like a personal problem to me. Are your own ill-defined thoughts that threatening to you? Oh wait, I forgot about the voices. Never mind.
Posts: 9,099
Threads: 2,030
Joined: Oct 2014
Magical Realist
Jun 26, 2022 01:47 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 26, 2022 02:00 AM by Magical Realist.)
Quote:Apparently asking you to simply define words you used (after trying to throw that onus on me, as if I know what you're trying to say when you clearly don't) incites you to insults.
You were the one who introduced calling the fetus a "being".''
Quote:when does the human life of a fetus magically become a being?
Then you introduced "beingness" whatever that means. I have no intention of playing tedious word games. If you can't define your words then don't use them. It's as simple as that.
Posts: 8,538
Threads: 178
Joined: Aug 2016
Syne
Jun 26, 2022 04:27 AM
(Jun 26, 2022 01:47 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Apparently asking you to simply define words you used (after trying to throw that onus on me, as if I know what you're trying to say when you clearly don't) incites you to insults.
You were the one who introduced calling the fetus a "being".'' Do you even realize that you're lying, or are you really that delusional?
\/ \/
(Jun 25, 2022 10:41 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: A fetus isn't a human being. Just like an acorn isn't an oak tree.
(Jun 25, 2022 10:56 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The fetus becomes a "being" when it becomes a fetus. It is just a temporary phase of development, not the end result. Like how the oak tree is the end result of the development of the acorn. The human being is the end result of the development of the fetus and occurs at birth.
Quote:Quote:when does the human life of a fetus magically become a being?
Then you introduced "beingness" whatever that means. I have no intention of playing tedious word games. If you can't define your words then don't use them. It's as simple as that.
"Beingness" is just the state or fact of being. You brought this up. Now you're just equivocating to dodge the fact that you have no salient argument.
Posts: 9,099
Threads: 2,030
Joined: Oct 2014
Magical Realist
Jun 26, 2022 05:19 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 26, 2022 05:25 AM by Magical Realist.)
You were the one who first called the fetus "a being". Not me liar. I'm done with your petty shit. Go back to your rock or whatever you live under.
Posts: 8,538
Threads: 178
Joined: Aug 2016
Syne
Jun 26, 2022 05:37 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 26, 2022 05:38 AM by Syne.)
(Jun 26, 2022 05:19 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: You were the one who first called the fetus "a being". Not me liar. I'm done with your petty shit. Go back to your rock or whatever you live under. So you're so intellectually lazy that you can't even be bothered to reread the thread and find a quote you think supports your lie.
I said it was a human.
(Jun 25, 2022 10:33 PM)Syne Wrote: You don't have any moral opinion over whether one human kills another?
Nothing about a being. Like I said earlier, science and biology clearly state it is a human life.
Thanks for verifying that you are delusional.
Posts: 9,099
Threads: 2,030
Joined: Oct 2014
Magical Realist
Jun 26, 2022 05:46 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 26, 2022 05:47 AM by Magical Realist.)
Nope liar. Like I quoted already, you said:
"when does the human life of a fetus magically become a being?"
You're the one first calling it a "being", and that is where it all started. Man up and admit your screwups.
Posts: 8,538
Threads: 178
Joined: Aug 2016
Syne
Jun 26, 2022 06:19 AM
(Jun 26, 2022 05:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Nope liar. Like I quoted already, you said:
"when does the human life of a fetus magically become a being?"
You're the one first calling it a "being", and that is where it all started. Man up and admit your screwups.
You either can't comprehend simple English, or you're gaslighting any reader who won't go look for themselves.
Or...just delusional.
(Jun 25, 2022 10:48 PM)Syne Wrote: (Jun 25, 2022 10:41 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:You don't have any moral opinion over whether one human kills another?
A fetus isn't a human being. Just like an acorn isn't an oak tree.
A fetus is, scientifically and biologically, a human life. Scientifically, an acorn is analogous to a sperm, hence why one contains and one is referred to as "seed."
Using hedge words like "human being" to obfuscate some vague notion of personhood is self-deception.
But granting that premise, when does the human life of a fetus magically become a being?
See? You claimed it wasn't a "human being," when I had only called it "human" (which is the scientific fact). Then I said it was "human life" (again, not "being") and asked you when it becomes a "human being."
I know, far too much to ask of your comprehension or intellectual honesty.
Posts: 9,099
Threads: 2,030
Joined: Oct 2014
Magical Realist
Jun 26, 2022 06:29 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 26, 2022 06:37 AM by Magical Realist.)
Quote:Then I said it was "human life" (again, not "being") and asked you when it becomes a "human being."
Nope liar. You asked me when it becomes "a being." That's the first use of "a being" in the conversation. And then you bring up "beingness" and refuse to define it. So you lied and continue lying. No more of this pathetic bs. I'm done.
|