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There are moral reasons to be vaccinated – but doesn’t mean it’s your ethical duty

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C C Offline
https://theconversation.com/there-are-pl...uty-158687

EXCERPTS: . . . The discussion of whether or not one should take the COVID-19 vaccine is often framed in terms of individual self-interest: The benefits outweigh the risk, so you should do it. That’s not a moral argument.

Most people likely believe that others have wide latitude in determining how they care for their own health, so it can be permissible to engage in risky activities [...] Whether one should get vaccinated, however, is a moral issue because it affects others, and in a couple of ways.

First, effective vaccines are expected to decrease not only rates of infection but also rates of virus transmission. This means that getting the vaccine can protect others from you and contribute to the population reaching herd immunity.

Second, high disease prevalence allows for more genetic mutation of a virus, which is how new variants arise. If enough people aren’t vaccinated quickly, new variants may develop that are more infectious, are more dangerous or evade current vaccines.

The straightforward ethical argument, then, says: Getting vaccinated isn’t just about [...] the right to take risks with your own safety. But as the British philosopher John Stuart Mill argued in 1859, your freedom is limited by the harm it could do to others. In other words, you do not have the right to risk other people’s health, and so you are obligated to do your part to reduce infection and transmission rates.

It’s a plausible argument. But the case is rather more complicated...

[...] Refusing to be vaccinated does not violate Mill’s harm principle, as it does not directly threaten some particular other with significant harm. Rather, it contributes a very small amount to a large, collective harm.

Since no individual vaccination achieves herd immunity or eliminates genetic mutation, it is natural to wonder: Could we really have a duty to make such a very small contribution to the collective good?

[...] Is getting vaccinated intimate? While it may not appear so at first blush, it involves having a substance injected into your body, which is a form of bodily intimacy. It requires allowing another to puncture the barrier between your body and the world. In fact, most medical procedures are the sort of thing that it seems inappropriate to demand of someone, as individuals have unilateral moral authority over what happens to their bodies.

The argument presented here objects to intimate duties because they seem too invasive. However, even if members of the moral community don’t have the standing to demand that others vaccinate, they are not required to stay silent; they may ask, request or entreat, based on very good reasons. And of course, no one is required to interact with those who decline... (MORE - details)
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Syne Offline
Seems the author was struggling to find the term "bodily autonomy" when they grasped for "intimate".

Perhaps there is a higher ethical duty for those who are prone to catching infectious viruses, like the flu. Their history shows they are vulnerable, at least to catching it and carrying a high enough viral load to be symptomatic, which translates to being more infectious...and that holds for Covid as well.

Personally, I've never had the flu. So even if I've ever been infected, it's likely never been enough to spread to others. So me getting vaccinated likely wouldn't help with herd immunity or genetic mutation any more than my immune system already does. With that in mind, there's is simply no upside to subjecting myself to a fast-tracked vaccine, especially with new technology without longitudinal studies.

So no, I don't feel any ethical duty, but I do see reasons why others would.
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Quote:https://theconversation.com/there-are-pl...uty-158687

[...] First, effective vaccines are expected to decrease not only rates of infection but also rates of virus transmission. This means that getting the vaccine can protect others from you and contribute to the population reaching herd immunity.

Second, high disease prevalence allows for more genetic mutation of a virus, which is how new variants arise. If enough people aren’t vaccinated quickly, new variants may develop that are more infectious, are more dangerous or evade current vaccines [...]


Plus, actually having the vaccines available (especially for the second shots) so that there is fertile ground for lots of moral duty posturing and free-choice acts having something to decline.

CVS, Walgreens have wasted more Covid vaccine doses than most states combined
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-ne...s-n1266032

INTRO: Two national pharmacy chains that the federal government entrusted to inoculate people against Covid-19 account for the lion's share of wasted vaccine doses, according to government data obtained by Kaiser Health News.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recorded 182,874 wasted doses as of late March, three months into the country's effort to vaccinate the masses against the coronavirus. CVS was responsible for nearly half, and Walgreens was responsible for 21 percent, or nearly 128,500 wasted shots combined.

CDC data suggest that the companies have wasted more doses than states, U.S. territories and federal agencies combined. Pfizer's vaccine, which in December was the first to be deployed and initially required storage at ultracold temperatures, made up nearly 60 percent of the tossed doses.

It's not completely clear from the CDC data why the two chains wasted so much more vaccine than states and federal agencies. Some critics have pointed to poor planning early in the rollout, when the Trump administration leaned heavily on CVS and Walgreens to vaccinate residents and staff members of long-term care facilities. In response to questions, CVS said "nearly all" of its reported vaccine waste occurred during that effort. Walgreens didn't specify how many doses were wasted during the long-term care program.

One thing is clear: Months into the vaccination drive, the CDC has a limited view of how much vaccine is going to waste, where it's being wasted and who is wasting it, potentially complicating efforts to direct doses where they are needed most. Public health experts say having a good handle on waste is crucial to detect problems that could derail progress and risk lives... (MORE - details)

RELATED (posted last month):

Millions are skipping their second doses of Covid vaccines: . . . Those attitudes were expected, but another hurdle has been surprisingly prevalent. A number of vaccine providers have canceled second-dose appointments because they ran out of supply or didn’t have the right brand in stock.

Walgreens, one of the biggest vaccine providers, sent some people who got a first shot of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine to get their second doses at pharmacies that only had the other vaccine on hand. Several Walgreens customers said in interviews that they scrambled, in some cases with help from pharmacy staff, to find somewhere to get the correct second dose. Others, presumably, simply gave up.

From the outset, public health experts worried that it would be difficult to get everyone to return for a second shot three or four weeks after the first dose. [...] It is not clear how widespread the Walgreens dose-matching problem has been or how many people have missed their second doses because of it.

[...] Walgreens has also come under fire for, until recently, scheduling second doses of the Pfizer vaccine four weeks after the first shot, rather than the three-week gap recommended by the C.D.C. Pharmacists have been besieged by customers complaining, including about their inability to book vaccine appointments online...
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One of the hallmarks of a free state is that the individual's right to remain stupid takes precedence over any other consideration.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(May 10, 2021 11:33 AM)confused2 Wrote: One of the hallmarks of a free state is that the individual's right to remain stupid takes precedence over any other consideration.

That’s good C2. I’m going to borrow and use it against my conspiracy theorist brother’s arguments.

The whole vaccination pro & con reminds me of Pascal’s wager. If you want to cover your ass, just in case you’re wrong, then get the needle.

How much of a role does cognitive dissonance play? One set of beliefs versus a contradictory set and people needing to find some balance. A recipe for stress if you can’t mange it. So take the goddam shot and feel somewhat liberated, ease the load on your mind and balance the scale. While stressing out about it you just might get to kill someone, perhaps in your own family, albeit unintentionally.
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