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Russian Ukraine Invasion

RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Aug 19, 2022 09:34 PM)Yazata Wrote: But yeah, CC is right. Ukrainian drones of some sort, maybe a capable new model that they just rolled out in the last couple of weeks, is most likely.

what range have their anti ship missiles got ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpoon_(missile)
220 kilometers air launched

if they have converted their harpoons to ground launch & maintained their operational range . . .
221 kilo war head would make holes in the bridge

it might also explain why the Orc anti missile systems cant hit them & you can see in the video the anti missile system firing low & flat like its targeting a cruise missile.

220 kilo cluster bomb missile would lay waste to air craft quite nicely as well as cause issues with openly stored wooden crate ammunition as was seen in the video previously.

i hope they have lots more

it is interesting to see al the Orc familys treating the beach at crimea like Disney land while they kill Ukrainian civilians and bring an entire country to its knees

what russia has been hoping is the war will never be brought home
now it is

readings CCs' item on the pay-out to the family of what is 350k nz dollars
the soldier was 24 years old and joined the military from high school which would be 17 or 16 years old
which is roughly $45,000.00 per year salary for 7 or 8 years service.
i gues that pay-out might have been his wages.
but the mother is singing the party line about propaganda so money well spent for Moscow.

i wonder how many of the Orcs surrounding crimea are from moscow & st petersberg
possibly quite a few as it would have been seen as a safe place where military familys get 5 star treatment and live like kings.
now the back yard of their war game playground has started to blow up
they will be panicking because im sure the kremlin told them it was perfectly safe for them there.
now it starts to look like a war.
pressure will be coming on putin to declare something now crimea is exploding.
but what is the question, i doubt he will back out of the donbas
only way to get them out is to pound them out and soon those soldiers on the wrong side of the river are going to be looking at winter, under fire with no food or support
and maybe some of the richer familys have children in those ranks.
im guessing all the rich and military high ranking people fled in those columns of vehicles that were seen evacuating over the bridges soon after they were hit for the first time.

now hopefully the bridges are impassable and wild panic ensues in the Orcs as they have no evacuation of wounded or retreat path.
hopefully Ukraine can hit the pontoon bridges as soon as possible to really drive the nail in.
if they cant evacuate their wounded out it will help crush Orc morale even more than them not being able to get new equipment and personal in.
if they use helicopters hopefully Ukraine can reach them with missiles
i guess mass helicopter evacuations will be the Orcs only option and that will be sewing seeds of discontent as privilege and class get out before the poor commoners.
like rabid dogs they will start to fight amongst themselves
Ukraine is creating a pressure cooker which will put heat directly on crimea & the kremlin
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Yazata Offline
Photos are appearing on the internet, posted from Ukraine, that appear to show HIMARS launchers configured to accept ATACMS rounds. I'm not 100% convinced, but these missiles are consistent with some of what we have been seeing.
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C C Offline
(Aug 20, 2022 05:28 AM)Yazata Wrote: Photos are appearing on the internet, posted from Ukraine, that appear to show HIMARS launchers configured to accept ATACMS rounds. I'm not 100% convinced, but these missiles are consistent with some of what we have been seeing.

Possible, at least. ATACMS missiles do travel up to 190 miles, and HIMARS are receptive. Ukraine needs something with a range of well over 500 miles to strike Moscow. Even nearer cities like Tula and Vorenezh are probably out of reach.

Samad-3's are a poverty-stricken armed movement's choice of UAVs for striking across 1,500 kilometers. But they only carry a 40-pound explosive payload. Ukraine drone manufacturers can surely crank-out something better or modify what they've got. Might take launching several for each mission in order for just one to survive the defenses. And would be limited to delivering more of a morale blow to Russia than probably hitting anything actually strategic.
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Yazata Offline
More things just mysteriously blowing up in Orc-land. This is today at an airbase near Bakhchysarai in Crimea. There were reports of three explosions there.


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And here is a surface to air missile at Olenivka some distance away in Crimea near the site of the first airbase attack, launching at... something. The Russian tourists seem unfazed, including the waterjet guy in the lower right. Just part of the entertainment.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...8396617728

Meanwhile Ukrainian surface to air missiles were launching in the city of Dnipro (Ukraine's fourth largest city)


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(Aug 21, 2022 03:20 AM)Yazata Wrote: More things just mysteriously blowing up in Orc-land. This is today at an airbase near Bakhchysarai in Crimea. There were reports of three explosions there.



And here is a surface to air missile at Olenivka some distance away in Crimea near the site of the first airbase attack, launching at... something. The Russian tourists seem unfazed, including the waterjet guy in the lower right.  Just part of the entertainment.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...8396617728

Meanwhile Ukrainian surface to air missiles were launching in the city of Dnipro (Ukraine's fourth largest city)
Quote:launching at... something.

looks like there is no explosion ball of smoke at the end which i wonder if it means it missed

Holidaying in a war zone . . . im guessing many have fled & only soldiers remain.
1 video said something like 14000 vehicles fled chimea after the big air base explosions a few days ago.
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C C Offline
(Aug 21, 2022 04:06 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Aug 21, 2022 03:20 AM)Yazata Wrote: More things just mysteriously blowing up in Orc-land. This is today at an airbase near Bakhchysarai in Crimea. There were reports of three explosions there.

And here is a surface to air missile at Olenivka some distance away in Crimea near the site of the first airbase attack, launching at... something. The Russian tourists seem unfazed, including the waterjet guy in the lower right.  Just part of the entertainment.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...8396617728

Meanwhile Ukrainian surface to air missiles were launching in the city of Dnipro (Ukraine's fourth largest city)
Quote:launching at... something.

looks like there is no explosion ball of smoke at the end which i wonder if it means it missed

Holidaying in a war zone . . . im guessing many have fled & only soldiers remain.
1 video said something like 14000 vehicles fled chimea after the big air base explosions a few days ago.

As if just attacking Crimea wasn't already crossing one of Russia's "point of no return" threats, Ukraine's declarations that it will retake Crimea thoroughly ensures either a massive build-up response from Russia -- or a more sudden, devastating chain of events being executed.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62618538

in the video it looks like a successful drone strike on the roof of the HQ of the russian fleet
Orcs say it was shot down and landed on the roof hahahahaha doesn't look like it.

Quote:Russian forces in Crimea have been targeted by a fresh drone strike.

The Russian-appointed regional leader said a Ukrainian drone targeting Russia's Black Sea fleet in the city of Sevastopol was shot down on Saturday.

what Ukraine needs for Winter
The Archer
with excalibre rounds it has a 60 kilometer range
hopefully sweden can fast track training and 10 units to ukraine

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/VM9ztApGf5g
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Yazata Offline
(Aug 21, 2022 01:44 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62618538

in the video it looks like a successful drone strike on the roof of the HQ of the russian fleet
Orcs say it was shot down and landed on the roof hahahahaha doesn't look like it.

Russian forces in Crimea have been targeted by a fresh drone strike.

The Russian-appointed regional leader said a Ukrainian drone targeting Russia's Black Sea fleet in the city of Sevastopol was shot down on Saturday.

Special Kherson Cat reports:

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/stat...2037332994

The audio in one of the videos in these tweets indicates that appears to be unsuccessful attempts to shoot down a small civilian-type drone (barely visible in the sky) with small arms. If this what hit the naval headquarters, it seems to have done so with some kind of small grenade payload. Largely a harassment attack mostly for psychological effect, I guess.

The thing is, there's no way that a little drone like that would have flown 200-300 km. So it appears that there are Ukrainian covert operatives nearby who launched it and guided it to its target. That must concern the Russians.

The lame attempts to shoot it down are telling too. Drones like that are comparatively easy to jam and its interesting the Russians didn't have drone jammers. (I bet they are bringing them in now.) Drones are often combatted close-quarters with some kind of high-rate-of-fire miniguns, not personal small arms like AKs. The Russians are certainly capable of doing that, but they didn't. Which kind of implies that they never anticipated this kind of attack.

Here's more conventional anti-aircraft guns in Sevastopol firing at something Friday night/Saturday morning. Apparently there was more than one drone detected and the second one drew a more robust response.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/stat...0009916418

Edit And photo of a larger drone over Sevastopol. This doesn't appear to be carrying any external munitions. If it's a Ukrainian offensive drone, it might be a kamikaze drone. Or alternatively, it might be a Russian surveillance drone.


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