Article  The surprisingly scientific methods of Big Foot investigators

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C C Offline
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EXCERPTS: Yet Bigfooters are not ‘citizen scientists’ in the way we might be familiar with, due to their counter-establishment orientation and alternative vision of what ‘good’ science means. To a degree, the Bigfooter scientific model echoes that of the natural philosophers of previous centuries, in which individualism was valorised, and where testimony, anecdote and personal experience carried evidential weight.

So, how do contemporary Bigfooters use scientific technologies and techniques in their pursuit of evidence – and, ultimately, proof? And what makes their commitment to empiricism different from mainstream science?

Following our interviews, one particular line stuck with us as an apt description of the empirical Bigfooter’s mindset. It came from Cliff Barackman, the presenter of the US TV series Finding Bigfoot (2011-) and the owner of the North American Bigfoot Center in Boring, Oregon. ‘There is this foolish statement, that is still thrown around, that there is no evidence for Bigfoot,’ Barackman said. ‘There’s plenty of evidence, there’s no proof. There’s a big difference.’

This is what we might call the Bigfooter’s lament, and maybe the most concise summary of the frustration – and perhaps sadness – that Bigfooters experience when it comes to making empirical claims for Bigfoot’s existence.

Because there is ‘plenty of evidence’; Bigfooters have collected thousands of witness testimonies, cast hundreds of footprints, recorded scores of howls, and have even captured the occasional photograph or video. Of course, none of these are convincing if starting from the position that Bigfoot does not exist as a biological creature.

Bigfooters are thus faced with an evidential challenge that cannot be resolved with witness testimonies, photos, footprints or recorded sounds and groans. Implicitly and explicitly, both the general public and the scientific community make a simple request: Habeas corpus. Show the body.

[...] So, how exactly are Bigfooters engaged in scientific work? Bigfooting is clearly empirical; it centres on the collection and interpretation of evidence, and we hope readers of this essay, and of our book, appreciate how seriously Bigfooters take this dimension of their work, even in the face of derision. Yet empiricism alone does not constitute ‘science’. From a sociological perspective, science is a social practice – one that is embedded in institutions, structured by norms, and sustained through processes of consensus-building and the demarcation of intellectual territories. Contemporary science is characterised by social features such as peer review, formal training, credentialing, and competition for funding, all of which are absent from the social worlds of Bigfooting.

The contrast is instructive. Not everyone can become a primatologist, at least not without years of specialised education and institutional affiliation, whereas virtually anyone can become a Bigfooter. [...] And yet, Bigfooting collects evidence and makes claims that could be relatively easily incorporated into mainstream, institutional science.

This is not parapsychology; Bigfoot demands no new forces be theorised. This is not ghost-hunting; Bigfoot requires no new classes of entity. This is not UFOlogy; the existence of Bigfoot as a newly discovered ape would not challenge our understanding of our place in the Universe.

The irony is that, should Bigfooters succeed, Bigfooting will be undone as an activity. As Joshua Blu Buhs wrote in Bigfoot: The Life and Times of a Legend (2009): ‘Science would still be science; anthropological theory would have a new wrinkle but remain mostly intact. Scientists would move in once America’s great ape was captured, and the amateurs would be out.’ (MORE - missing details)
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote: Implicitly and explicitly, both the general public and the scientific community make a simple request: Habeas corpus. Show the body.

Unfortunately cameras cease to work and can’t focus at the most critical of moments. This phenomenon may be even stranger than Bigfoot. Same things with guns, they jam or can’t be fired, and even when they do work the target is missed no matter how close the shooter gets. Again, this phenomenon may be as strange in itself as actual Bigfoot. Perhaps it’s time to solve why there’s malfunctioning of all devices that could prove Bigfoot real before anything else. And there lies another problem, can’t be done without including some mysterious force attributed to Bigfoot which also requires proof.

I think that’s where the Bigfoot hunters and their ilk have it tough. They need to prove other phenomena before they consider showing the world proof of the creature. Impossible.
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Syne Offline
(Aug 9, 2026 02:17 AM)C C Wrote: Scientists would move in once America’s great ape was captured, and the amateurs would be out.’

And that's why all these people have a vested interest/motivated reasoning in either spoofing or mistaking evidence. Obscurantism is the real phenomena behind cryptozoology, ghosts, UFO, etc.. Most of it is self-deception... that very often seems to become an identity, in itself, prone to that level of defensiveness.
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Quote:This is not parapsychology; Bigfoot demands no new forces be theorised. This is not ghost-hunting; Bigfoot requires no new classes of entity.

Actually it does as similar hairy ape-like cryptids have been showing up in nearly all the states--the skunk ape of Florida, the Ohio grass man, the New Jersey devil, the Fouke monster of Arkansas, the Louisiana Swamp monster, etc. This requires a whole new taxonomical class of creature that basically IS paranormal and involves interdimensional portals. This is why no body has been found nor will ever be found. Because these are just one among many examples of NHI's spotted around the world.
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(Aug 10, 2026 10:15 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: This is why no body has been found nor will ever be found.

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
- Christopher Hitchens

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Multiple eyewitness accounts of Bigfoot appearing and disappearing as well as the periodic involvement of orange orbs. Ofcourse nobody needs to prove shit to anyone claiming to speak for Science. The science and research IS being done and has been for years. That's why there are prodigious amounts of evidence available online for anyone honestly interested in this.

https://www.themeateater.com/conservatio...oot-exists
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(Aug 9, 2026 08:25 PM)Syne Wrote: ... that very often seems to become an identity, in itself, prone to that level of defensiveness.
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