What finally broke me & made me no longer trust ‘experts’ (Pinsky's COVID red pill)

(Sep 2, 2025 08:55 PM)Syne Wrote: Ivermectin in not only used in horses. You fell for a lie.

Quote:This alert [unspecified] followed a jump in the number of calls to a poison control center over ingestion of the drug, often purchased from animal supply stores. “This is medical treatment. You wouldn’t get your chemotherapy at a feed store,” Dobbs said in a media interview.3 Similar stories have been reported in other states, including Oklahoma, Utah, and Alabama.4, 5, 6

Same source..

Quote:When it comes to lawsuits, where the real liability exists is when someone claims harm due to off-label use.

Is Pinsky's point that MDs should be allowed (encouraged?) to use off label medication .. or something else? Kind'a vague really. A shame he couldn't explain better.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9098306/

Of course not. It's stupid to use actual veterinary drugs/doses on people. You also don't limit doctors who think it is worth prescribing, leading fearmongered people to attempt such things. But plenty of human drugs are used for valid off-label purposes. Viagra is an example of a drug often prescribed for off-label uses, because it is a vasodilator.

Ivermectin is used to treat human diseases caused by roundworms and a wide variety of external parasites. [...] Approved for human use in 1987, it is used to treat infestations including head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis and lymphatic filariasis. It works through many mechanisms to kill the targeted parasites, and can be taken by mouth, or applied to the skin for external infestations.

[...] Misinformation has been widely spread claiming that ivermectin is beneficial for treating and preventing COVID-19. Such claims are not backed by credible scientific evidence. Multiple major health organizations, including the US Food and Drug Administration, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the European Medicines Agency, and the World Health Organization have advised that ivermectin is not recommended for the treatment of COVID-19.

Of course, the establishment also holds that vitamin C is useless in preventing or treating colds and any other contagious infection. And yet that is what I've been using for years to eliminate coughs, and prevent myself from catching what other people around me are sick from. When I received the unnecessary (for me) COVID vaccine in 2021, I got intensely ill from the side effects. That's how strong my immune system was. In contrast, others I know who have compromised immune systems (due to various medical conditions) didn't experience any negative symptoms from the vaccine at all.

But I'm not the statistical "average person" that research targets in its studies of supplements, vitamins, and drugs. The average American is afflicted with all kinds of medical problems because of their diet and lack of physical exertion, and the side effects they accumulate from taking various prescribed drugs that interact with each other. So the average person should not do what I do, but what their doctors recommend.

I eat healthy foods (a lot of non-refined vegetables and fruits), largely drink only water, exercise every day, take two large multivitamin softgels a day, a few supplements, (always with meals). And on very rare occasions where taking an extra-doses of vitamin C isn't enough to ward off whatever _X_, I take 500MG quercetin capsules to eradicate inflammation.

I've been bitten by poisonous copperhead snakes twice, and both times restored my swollen black foot back to normal within a day and a half by indulging in the very treatment that experts apparently warn one not to do.

Again, I do not qualify as the "average person" who does everything possible to destroy their health and immune system. So do not mimic or rely on what I take or do. Once dependence on doctors is heavily established, the patient must remain heavily dependent upon their advice (and medications, and surgery, yata-yata).

Also understand that I will surely die before most "average people" do. Due to something that does not get diagnosed. The only time I see a medical facility is when taking someone else there or to accompany them as a guide. (Not to get into how lost hubby would be without me keeping track of what his medications do and when they need to be refilled, etc. He bought into the system way back in childhood or adolescence, but he'll still probably live longer than me.)

(Sep 3, 2025 05:06 AM)C C Wrote: Of course, the establishment also holds that vitamin C is useless in preventing or treating colds and any other contagious infection. And yet that is what I've been using for years to eliminate coughs, and prevent myself from catching what other people around me are sick from. When I received the unnecessary (for me) COVID vaccine in 2021, I got intensely ill from the side effects. That's how strong my immune system was. In contrast, others I know who have compromised immune systems (due to various medical conditions) didn't experience any negative symptoms from the vaccine at all.

But I'm not the statistical "average person" that research targets in its studies of supplements, vitamins, and drugs. The average American is afflicted with all kinds of medical problems because of their diet and lack of physical exertion, and the side effects they accumulate from taking various prescribed drugs that interact with each other. So the average person should not do what I do, but what their doctors recommend.

I eat healthy foods (a lot of non-refined vegetables and fruits), largely drink only water, exercise every day, take two large multivitamin softgels a day, a few supplements, (always with meals). And on very rare occasions where taking an extra-doses of vitamin C isn't enough to ward off whatever _X_, I take 500MG quercetin capsules to eradicate inflammation.

I've been bitten by poisonous copperhead snakes twice, and both times restored my swollen black foot back to normal within a day and a half by indulging in the very treatment that experts apparently warn one not to do.

Again, I do not qualify as the "average person" who does everything possible to destroy their health and immune system. So do not mimic or rely on what I take or do. Once dependence on doctors is heavily established, the patient must remain heavily dependent upon their advice (and medications, and surgery, yata-yata).

Also understand that I will surely die before most "average people" do. Due to something that does not get diagnosed. The only time I see a medical facility is when taking someone else there or to accompany them as a guide. (Not to get into how lost hubby would be without me keeping track of what his medications do and when they need to be refilled, etc. He bought into the system way back in childhood or adolescence, but he'll still probably live longer than me.)

I really relate to a lot of that. I haven't seen a doctor or dentist for about thirty years, aside from physicals for jobs and once, decades ago, for physical therapy for a pinched rotator cuff (now I know the exercise to remedy that). I tend to see the eye doctor about every ten years. I workout twice a day, five days a week. I don't eat fast food and I do intermittent fasting, although I do eat a fair amount to frozen foods (I'm not a cook). I usually only take a caffeine tablet for headaches, as rare as they are nowadays, and only take an aspirin if I get something like a toothache, which is even rarer. I've probably been bitten by fiddle backs (brown recluses) a few times, and the only one that started to go necrotic I cured with a stun gun. Figured out how to handle shingles on my own. Only got COVID once, and it was no worse then a mild flu. Never got the jab. If any joints start to hurt, I know which muscles I need to work, but I do take glucosamine for the joints, a multivitamin, and a potassium once a day.

It's probably a good idea to advise people not to follow my lead either. Yep, likely to be taken out by some undiagnosed something too.

Certainly in the UK (and probably the US) policy was informed by wastewater analysis - which rather rules out the possibility of a response tailored to individual needs and beliefs.

Quote:Compared to countries like Japan and China [as of November 5, 2020] which each have approximately 100,000 COVID-19 infections in total as of Nov. 5, the United States' 9.4 million cumulative cases is astronomical.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/months-dr-...d=74037320[/quote]

Personally I find vitamin pills and healthy food generally make me feel worse. I do find Marmite is a useful supplement to my mainly veggie junk food diet. Marmite is made from whole creatures so there should be something in it for whatever it is that I need. As a product of the brewing industry (both) it may have homeopathic qualities not found in other supplements. After measuring my blood pressure I did start of program of exercise and diet which lasted nearly three weeks. The machine has gone in the cupboard with the other things I am unlikely to need or use ever again.

As with the previous posts..It's probably a good idea to advise people not to follow my lead.

(Sep 3, 2025 06:06 AM)Syne Wrote: [...] I don't eat fast food and I do intermittent fasting, although I do eat a fair amount to frozen foods (I'm not a cook). I usually only take a caffeine tablet for headaches, as rare as they are nowadays, and only take an aspirin if I get something like a toothache, which is even rarer. [...]

When it comes to having stored items always on hand, I prefer frozen vegetables to canned ones, since the bags I get usually lack the heavy added salt, sugar, etc of the canned stuff. Not we that we don't keep the latter, too, but that's for potential, temporary SHTF intervals.

Maybe averaging out over the last year at one to three days a month, aspirin is usually the painkiller I take, because I don't have to worry about thin blood. (Lots of vitamin K from the cruciferous vegetables, maybe.) And I never take aspirin on an empty stomach. If the latter is unavoidable for some reason, I'll use acetaminophen. One of hubby's buddies isn't even on blood-thinner, and he literally bleeds through his skin in spots if he takes aspirin.

I've got one problem tooth (albeit usually painless) that once a year or so gets infected and threatens to spread, and I start taking vitamin C every four hours (along with occasional quercetin) to end that. My sister-in-law ignored a similar problem tooth for months, because the dentists wanted to perform an elaborate procedure that cost over ten thousand dollars, instead of just pulling the tooth. She had to go to emergency after it developed an infection and spread into her throat, and she couldn't swallow anymore. After that, she sought out and finally found a sane dental service in a different county.

(Sep 3, 2025 11:07 AM)confused2 Wrote: [...] Personally I find vitamin pills and healthy food generally make me feel worse. I do find Marmite is a useful supplement to my mainly veggie junk food diet. Marmite is made from whole creatures so there should be something in it for whatever it is that I need. As a product of the brewing industry (both) it may have homeopathic qualities not found in other supplements. After measuring my blood pressure I did start of program of exercise and diet which lasted nearly three weeks. The machine has gone in the cupboard with the other things I am unlikely to need or use ever again.

As with the previous posts..It's probably a good idea to advise people not to follow my lead.

Yah, each person seems to be pretty different. Even when it comes to prescription drugs, what works for one individual may have adverse effects on another, or zero effect at all.

(Sep 3, 2025 05:26 PM)C C Wrote: I've got one problem tooth (albeit usually painless) that once a year or so gets infected and threatens to spread, and I start taking vitamin C every four hours (along with occasional quercetin) to end that. My sister-in-law ignored a similar problem tooth for months, because the dentists wanted to perform an elaborate procedure that cost over ten thousand dollars, instead of just pulling the tooth. She had to go to emergency after it developed an infection and spread into her throat, and she couldn't swallow anymore. After that, she sought out and finally found a sane dental service in a different county.

Maybe once every couple of years or so I'll get an abscess, but swishing salt water twice a day for a week, at most, clears that right up.

Briefly back to the OP..

True or False?

Wikipedia says:-

Quote:Between February and March 2020, Pinsky made a series of statements concerning the COVID-19 outbreak where he downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic, stating that it was not as bad as the flu, and suggested that it was a "press-induced panic".[55] Pinsky apologized in April 2020, and he urged people to follow the advice of Anthony Fauci.[55][56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Pinsky

It has to be either True or False .. which is it?

In the OP interview we get "Holy moley, I didn't know what had happened to those organizations." .. would that be before he realised the epidemic was serious (if he actually did) or some other time?

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ul-s5kM89DQ

Quote:..little bit later but I want to be clear
that I apologize for getting it wrong I
wish I'd gotten it right I did not thank
goodness yet doctor fealty wrong and
when doctor thought you made it clear
that this was not a usual influenza that
it was significantly worse I adjusted
course and if you notice I've been doing
at least two hours of media day backing
to changing my perspective in such a way
as to sign on for the aggressive
measures we are taking now the thing I
also said from the beginning was follow
the CDC recommendations follow dr.
fellows recommendations they will keep
us safe and and I thought that you know
when the government started taking more
aggressive measures we should all sign
up we had a collective responsibility to
do so
I wear a mask outside now I do what I'm
supposed to do and it's paying dividends
it is improving it is flattening the
curve and I'm delighted to be a part of
that I'm glad to be part of that so what
I do I think the reason I got it wrong
is I didn't understand the ferocity of
this illness the way you can crash
people I was just looking at the numbers
pairing numbers and that was the loser
thing part of this now I will tell you

Pinsky and Rubinsky are looking more like Bullshitsky by the minute.