Article  We're still asking the wrong questions about antidepressants

(Aug 24, 2025 09:10 PM)Syne Wrote:

(Aug 24, 2025 09:07 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

(Aug 24, 2025 09:05 PM)Syne Wrote: So you couldn't be bothered. Got it.

What are you talking about? Bothered by what?

(Aug 24, 2025 12:29 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: ...such people as weak and under motivated losers who are just too lazy or self-absorbed to...

(Aug 24, 2025 08:21 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: As far as CBT goes, I attended a few classes of that and it was obsessed with making you log all sorts things and affirmations and exercises and goals that I simply abhor..

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LOL You're saying I'm lazy because CBT wasn't for me? How does that follow? Don't I have freewill?

"A few classes" and not putting in any effort. You didn't do enough to know whether it would work/help or not. Pills are easy.
Do whatever you want. Just don't whine about what people may think of it, especially when you seem to affirm those opinions.

Quote:"A few classes" and not putting in any effort. You didn't do enough to know whether it would work/help or not. Pills are easy.

How is not using CBT "not putting in any effort"? I put in effort every day overcoming depression. Have been for many years. Not opting for a technique doesn't mean I'm lazy. And meds work fine for me. Why should I try anything else?

Quote:Do whatever you want. Just don't whine about what people may think of it, especially when you seem to affirm those opinions.

People who stigmatize mental disorders as character flaws do so out of ignorance and a political agenda. Or did you not get that part of my post? That you are one such moralizing prig doesn't concern me in the least. It's the typical group think of your anti-science political party. How could you believe anything else?

(Aug 24, 2025 09:26 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I put in effort every day overcoming depression. Have been for many years.

Really? How?

Figure it out...

(Aug 24, 2025 10:24 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Figure it out...

Yeah, just taking pills. Those child-proof caps really aren't "effort."

(Aug 24, 2025 10:28 PM)Syne Wrote:

(Aug 24, 2025 10:24 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Figure it out...

Yeah, just taking pills. Those child-proof caps really aren't "effort."

LOL You're the one claiming pills have such terrible side effects. Don't see anything easy about that at all. And what if it is effort-saving? Why shouldn't people find the easiest and quickest way to treat their condition? Is easiness now some sort of vice? Is not the affliction of mental illness itself enough penance?

(Aug 24, 2025 10:34 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

(Aug 24, 2025 10:28 PM)Syne Wrote:

(Aug 24, 2025 10:24 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Figure it out...

Yeah, just taking pills. Those child-proof caps really aren't "effort."

LOL You're the one claiming pills have such terrible side effects. Don't see anything easy about that at all. And what if it is effort-saving? Why shouldn't people find the easiest and quickest way to treat their condition? Is easiness now some sort of vice? Is not the affliction of mental illness itself enough penance?

I get the sense that you think you're telling me off.

The problem is that you just admitted exactly what I assumed (which I knew the second you got dodgy about your effort).
You can't have it both ways, dipshit. You can't opt for the "effort-saving...easiest and quickest way" and then whine about being seen as lazy. You're literally the poster child for the exact stigma you're whining about.
Don't like it? Quit being such a useless lump of flesh.

LOL I just destroyed your ludicrous equation of taking meds with somehow being "lazy". You want me to do it again? Watch..

Quote:You can't opt for the "effort-saving...easiest and quickest way" and then whine about being seen as lazy.

Everybody in the world opts for the ways that save the most effort and time. Even you. It's not somehow immoral or lazy. It's called efficiency and being smart. Your determination to morally condemn mentally ill people just for taking meds that have a high success rate has utterly failed. Crawl back into your shithole..

Aw, that's cute.

You prove that taking meds is the lazy way out and then all you have to justify it is a lazy argumentum ad populum.
Again, "a few classes" and not putting in any effort. All the research says combining meds and CBT is the most efficient, and CBT is more effective in the long term.
And you even claimed that side effects aren't "easy ... at all," making meds even less efficient.