Check⁉️  How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

Some of you here will remain convinced Russia insanely sabotaged it's only steady source of real income. For those with a functioning brain:
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-...ord-stream
I had previously linked to an article where former UK PM Theresa May was quoted as having sent an intercepted SMS to perhaps Nuland or Blinken: 'it's done'.
So the only real question is who out of the US or UK actually did the physical dirty job.
Regardless, it was as per current article, an act of war. The full consequences yet to play out.

(Feb 9, 2023 07:37 AM)Kornee Wrote: Some of you here will remain convinced Russia insanely sabotaged it's only steady source of real income. For those with a functioning brain:
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-...ord-stream
I had previously linked to an article where former UK PM Theresa May was quoted as having sent an intercepted SMS to perhaps Nuland or Blinken: 'it's done'.
So the only real question is who out of the US or UK actually did the physical dirty job.
Regardless, it was as per current article, an act of war. The full consequences yet to play out.

So an entire article where literally a number of instances where people are asked for comment and reply that the conspiracy is "..is false and complete fiction" and even the wording of what source supposedly knew "... source with direct knowledge of the operational planning" (was that the source for the actual pipeline being targeted or just someone involved in the training they were crafting into their conspiracy?)

In essence it means the article is by no means a smoking gun, perhaps more along the lines of "Gas lighting".

(Feb 9, 2023 07:37 AM)Kornee Wrote: Some of you here will remain convinced Russia insanely sabotaged it's only steady source of real income. For those with a functioning brain:
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-...ord-stream
I had previously linked to an article where former UK PM Theresa May was quoted as having sent an intercepted SMS to perhaps Nuland or Blinken: 'it's done'.
So the only real question is who out of the US or UK actually did the physical dirty job.
Regardless, it was as per current article, an act of war. The full consequences yet to play out.

Quote:The leaks [sabotage] occurred one day after Poland and Norway opened the Baltic Pipe running through Denmark, bringing in gas from the North Sea, rather than from Russia as the Nord Stream pipelines do.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nor...e_sabotage

So probably not Russia. Suspicion falls on the country with most to gain from selling North Sea gas which would be sorry phone ringing - I need to take the call.

Where was I .. the UK has an odd system whereby we notionally export North Sea gas and then buy it back as an import (quite possibly involving the same pipe it was notionally exported through) so the UK consumer hasn't benefited from the creation of a local [European] shortage.

(Feb 9, 2023 09:51 AM)stryder Wrote: So an entire article where literally a number of instances where people are asked for comment and reply that the conspiracy is "..is false and complete fiction" and even the wording of what source supposedly knew "... source with direct knowledge of the operational planning" (was that the source for the actual pipeline being targeted or just someone involved in the training they were crafting into their conspiracy?)

In essence it means the article is by no means a smoking gun, perhaps more along the lines of "Gas lighting".

You would actually expect a confession of guilt?! Ha ha ha ha. The clear signalling from Biden himself was done in jest then? Ha ha ha ha. Cui bono.
Seymour Hersh is famous for having access to reliable deep insider contacts. I'll go with his account as making perfect sense.

PS - I was remiss in not including Norway as likely directly involved, though not in any sense masterminding the op.

do you have any links to these supposed smoking gun interceptions ?
or is it all rumour and hear-say ?

russia stood to gain the most from blowing up the pipe which had been turned off already, knowing Europe had decided to stop buying russian gas.

it had already been done as a deal to stop buying russian gas
but that reality seems to elude the conspiracy russiaphile trolls.

https://www.nationofchange.org/2023/02/0...-sabotage/

"If Russia invades—that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine—then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2," Biden said during a press conference on February 7. "We will bring an end to it."
"I promise you, we will be able to do it," the U.S. president added.

.....“And of course, when the explosion actually happened, some folks in the transatlantic, anti-Kremlin space cheered it happily as a successful act of anti-Russian sabotage,” Tharoor added, an apparent reference to a European member of Parliament’s since-deleted tweet thanking the U.S. for the Nord Stream explosions."

As good as a preemptive confession of guilt, and post event confirmation one could possibly hope for. Yet some are too dumb to comprehend even then.
Of course the guilty parties will deny and denounce Hersh's revelation. It was an act of war after all.

Do I have to post yet again that link to a rundown on the Grand Chessboard strategy set out for all the world to see back in 1997? Why bother. In one ear, out the other.

(Feb 9, 2023 11:05 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: do you have any links to these supposed smoking gun interceptions ?
or is it all rumour and hear-say ?

Seymour Hersh claims US Navy behind Nord Stream 2 pipeline explosion
https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/seymour-he...explosion/

Nord Stream 2 was already defunct for all intents and purposed by the time of the sabotage. Upon first hearing about it at that time last year, I recall wondering what idiot would have even bothered blowing it up at that point? POTUS would be a candidate for that mental status, but it was easy to also regard Putin doing it out of spite and pay-back to Europe for not genuflecting.

So this is essentially the second round of media trying to arouse wild foaming at the mouth over the beating of a dead horse. Third try will probably involve the revelations of a "journalist" of German descent, to balance out the "esteemed" Jewish insights of Hersh. Keith Olbermann supposedly still has a podcast (yeah, that's how bare my German ancestry list is).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_2

On 16 November 2021, European natural gas prices rose by 17% after Germany's energy regulator suspended approval of the Nord Stream 2.

On 9 December 2021, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki called on Germany's newly appointed Chancellor Olaf Scholz to oppose the start-up of Nord Stream 2 and not to give in to pressure from Russia. On a visit to Rome, Morawiecki said: "I will call on Chancellor Scholz not to give in to pressure from Russia and not to allow Nord Stream 2 to be used as an instrument for blackmail against Ukraine, an instrument for blackmail against Poland, an instrument for blackmail against the European Union."

Scholz suspended certification of Nord Stream 2 on 22 February 2022 in consequence of Russia's recognition of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics and the deployment of troops in territory held by the DPR and LPR.

Nord Stream 2 AG filed for bankruptcy on 1 March 2022 and laid off all 106 employees from its headquarters in Zug, Switzerland.

On 26 September 2022, a massive pressure loss and signs of large gas releases near the Danish island Bornholm were reported. Shortly after, gas leaks from the two pipelines were discovered within the Danish and Swedish economic zones. The day after the leaks occurred, Swedish police opened an investigation of the incident, calling it "major sabotage". The investigation is conducted in cooperation with other relevant authorities as well as the Swedish Security Service. A similar investigation was opened in Denmark. The two nations were in close contact, and had also been in contact with other countries in the Baltic region and NATO. These gas leaks were soon considered to be sabotage. On 29 September 2022, the Swedish Coast Guard confirmed a second leak from Nord Stream 2 very close to a larger leak found earlier on Nord Stream 1.

This detailed piece from Moon Of Alabama slightly corrects Hersh's account:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/02/so...tions.html

As for Nord Stream 2 being 'almost defunct' when the sabotage occurred, it is highly naive to think Germany in particular was other than severely arm-twisted by the usual suspects in Washington, to reluctantly suspend a deal that was highly in it's own economic interests to pursue.
Crippling the economy of the economic linchpin of Europe was for sure part of the thinking of the safely insulated US regime .

(Feb 10, 2023 02:53 AM)Kornee Wrote: This detailed piece from Moon Of Alabama slightly corrects Hersh's account:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/02/so...tions.html

As for Nord Stream 2 being 'almost defunct' when the sabotage occurred, it is highly naive to think Germany in particular was other than severely arm-twisted by the usual suspects in Washington, to reluctantly suspend a deal that was highly in it's own economic interests to pursue.
Crippling the economy of the economic linchpin of Europe was for sure part of the thinking of the safely insulated US regime .

now your claiming the usa is trying to destroy the European economy

how ?
what actions have the usa taken and you have proof of that would damage the European economy ?

(Feb 10, 2023 05:25 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:

(Feb 10, 2023 02:53 AM)Kornee Wrote: This detailed piece from Moon Of Alabama slightly corrects Hersh's account:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/02/so...tions.html

As for Nord Stream 2 being 'almost defunct' when the sabotage occurred, it is highly naive to think Germany in particular was other than severely arm-twisted by the usual suspects in Washington, to reluctantly suspend a deal that was highly in it's own economic interests to pursue.
Crippling the economy of the economic linchpin of Europe was for sure part of the thinking of the safely insulated US regime .

now your claiming the usa is trying to destroy the European economy

how ?
what actions have the usa taken and you have proof of that would damage the European economy ?

Are you really that naive? 'Proof'? What would constitute absolute proof - and how would one go about getting it from the conspirators who hatched the plot?
Obviously one can only read what is out there and join the dots. Those that choose to lap up MSM propaganda in preference to intelligent investigative journalism are beyond rational discourse.
Again - Cui bono!