Over 100 academics warn not to adopt IHRA anti-Semitism definition (loophole style)

I thought you said:

(Nov 6, 2022 07:58 AM)Kornee Wrote: ...it's time to quit.

Aside from liking some specific Jews being about as valid a defense against being antisemitic as saying you have black friends is of being racist...
Is that this Jeffery Sachs:

Jeffrey Sachs
@JeffreyASachs
That he has no problem with Jews in the particular or familial, but is disgusted by them in the general. “Theory”? Good lord, it’s not that complicated. Anti-Semitism never is.
- https://twitter.com/jeffreyasachs/status...18?lang=en

That would seem to agree with me, that it's the hate for them in general that is antisemitic. Lauding a few token Jews that you like or agree with (because some ape the same antisemitic stereotypes you do) doesn't absolve you of disparaging Jews in general.

Calling that "22 Reasons why Adolf Hitler was a GOOD GUY!" from your cited source a "tangent" isn't disavowing it.
And calling the Palestinian Authority use of human shields "supposed" sure sounds like apologetics.
Why are you so afraid to simply admit what you believe? Do you think they're all out to get you?

Again, you've simply conflated leftism/progressivism with a particular ethnic group in an attempt to justify your antisemitism.
And you're simply delusional if you think a definition of antisemitism stops the expression of antisemitism, much less free speech. You probably believe gun free zones somehow keep people from bringing guns into them, simply by existing, too. Dumb as any leftist.

You don't want to get it. Antisemitism as organized Jewry defines it is slapped on anyone with any valid criticisms of their nasty scheming.
I have no irrational hatred of Jews for simply being Jews. But many of The Tribe do have an irrational hatred of all goys especially whites. Fact.

As for Hitler, I'm aware of whitewash documentaries that portray him as the Great White Knight.
Jewry of course endlessly churns out material casting him as Pure Evil. The truth is somewhere in between.
He started out by rescuing Germany from the absolute misery imposed by the Treaty of Versailles. And Jewry's promotion of everything socially destructive.

Benjamin Freedman, another good Jew, will inform you on that one.
But went from savoir to destroyer with his ill considered military adventurism and overblown self-image as brilliant military strategist.
Which adventurism however was imo made essentially inevitable by both British intrigue and Soviet secret preparations to overrun Europe.

(Nov 7, 2022 03:32 AM)Kornee Wrote: [...] Far more than enough, in various posts in various threads, has been produced to establish the destructive treachery in general, white genocide plan in particular, owing to the organized cancer loosely known as World Jewry.

Both in it's Globalist and Zionist overlapping circles incarnations.

And am dismayed but unsurprised at the mix of brainwashed incredulity and spineless fear that motivates mostly silence from others.

Most just don't want to know unpleasant truths, regardless of how important to their own survival they may be.

Just as World Jewry wants it. Who happily supply an abundance of Disney style distractions for the doomed masses.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protoc...rs_of_Zion

INTRO: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion [...] is a fabricated antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The hoax was plagiarized from several earlier sources, some not antisemitic in nature. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.

We're well aware of the seemingly disproportionate number (perhaps exhibited below) of Jewish citizens in government, journalism, academia, the entertainment industry, etc. And a key involvement (but concerning only a minority of Jews) in leftist politics since the dawn of Marx formulating the 19th-century version of collectivism. (Albeit ironic from the standpoint of a history of both czarist and communist antisemitism.)

It's just that we don't attribute those results to a master intelligence or cabal orchestrating everything from a central hub or grand level, when patterns or self-organization arising from independent, individual efforts at a grassroots level will suffice.

For instance, Black athletes came to dominate American football and basketball, but it was via their own ambition, talent and work ethic in the area of sports -- not a camarilla handing it to them on a silver platter. The result of even southern coaches and managers tossing their prejudices aside back in the late '50s and '60s when they discovered on the playing field/court that Black athletes gave them an advantage. Practical prevails over personal ideology, even rehabilitates the latter over time. 

There are indeed radical or extremist groups, movements, and manipulative individuals. But we should address them in that particular context or their specific school of thought orientation, rather than using the overarching label of an entire ethnic or quasi-ethnic group.

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The State of World Jewry
https://www.commentary.org/articles/norm...rld-jewry/

INTRO (Norman Podhoretz): To speak of “world Jewry” in 1983 or any other year is a little reckless. For one thing, the very term “world Jewry” conjures up uncomfortable associations with the myth enshrined in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, according to which the Jews secretly run the world through an international committee of their richest and most powerful leaders.

Jews tend to smile wryly at the mention of this paranoid estimate of their power. Halevai, they say; would that it were so. Or, alternatively, knowing its potential for arousing literally murderous hostility, they rush to demonstrate that there is no such entity as world Jewry and no such body as the Elders of Zion. Alas, they say, if we were so powerful, how is it that we could not prevent Hitler from slaughtering so many millions of our people?

Still, neither mordant Jewish humor nor defensive Jewish anxiety has succeeded in putting the myth of the Elders of Zion to rest. Indeed, not even irrefutable scholarly proof that the Protocols were a forgery of the czarist secret police has been able to block the circulation of that extraordinary document. At this very moment, in the year 1983, millions of copies of the Protocols are in print and are freely distributed throughout the two main centers of anti-Semitism in our day: the Soviet world and the Arab world.

Yet even in the West—and yes, even in the United States—one finds traces of the myth in the minds of many who would laugh at the literalism with which it is spelled out in the Protocols, and who are by no stretch of the definition anti-Semitic. Only the other day, for example, I heard of a German politician with a history of anti-Nazism, and a record of friendliness toward Israel, who regularly inquires of prominent Jewish visitors, “Was gibt’s mit dem Weltjudentum?” (“What’s world Jewry up to these days?”) (MORE - details)

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Jews in Radical Politics
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article...-politics/

EXCERPT: Yet, if the Communists evoked little support from American Jewry at large, the party leadership continued to include a disproportionate number of Jews. [...] Well before the Depression, too, Jews contributed a significant share of the Communist party’s votes (although, again, this represented a distinct minority of all Jewish ballots cast). In the presidential elections of 1924 and 1928, about one-quarter of the 50,000 votes cast on both occasions for William Z. Foster, the Communist party’s nominee, came from New York, and almost certainly most were cast by Jews.

In 1925, the 22,000 circulation of Freiheit, the journal of the Jewish Socialist (Communist) Federation, actually exceeded the Daily Worker‘s 17,000. The tight Jewish nucleus re­mained in place throughout the 1920s, despite the party’s relentless opposition both to Judaism and to Zionism as “reactionary” influences. It was this group, too, that saw its best opportunity following the Wall Street crash.

[...] Even had socialism not been their family’s and their people’s tradition, it did not escape these embittered young Jews, blocked in mid-passage by depression and discrimination, that the Soviet leadership evidently had taken the lead in mobilizing resistance to fascism and anti-Semitism abroad and that the Communist party in the United States positioned itself in the forefront of every campaign for racial and economic jus­tice.

From 1934 on, too -- reflecting Moscow’s new Popular Front approach -- the Communists abandoned the former anti-Judaist and anti-Zionist propaganda of earlier years and appealed directly to Jews on issues of major Jewish concern.

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Like many others, Jews participated in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, but they by no means dominated it.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article...ave-trade/

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List of Jewish American journalists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Je...ournalists

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List of Jewish American politicians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Je...oliticians

List of Jewish members of the United States Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Je...s_Congress

List of Jewish heads of state and government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Je...government

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List of Jewish American academics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:J..._academics

List of Jewish American scientists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:J...scientists

List of Jewish American Social scientists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:J...scientists

List of Jewish American physicists (very incomplete, doesn't even have Lee Smolin)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:J...physicists

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List of Jewish American businesspeople in media (includes entertainment industry)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Je...e_in_media

List of Jewish American entertainers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Je...tertainers

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Who runs Hollywood? C'mon
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-...story.html

EXCERPTS: I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

[...] The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies...

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you’d be flipping between “The 700 Club” and “Davey and Goliath” on TV all day.

[...] “That’s a very dangerous phrase, ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ What is true is that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood,” he said. Instead of “control,” Foxman would prefer people say that many executives in the industry “happen to be Jewish,” as in “all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish.”

But Foxman said he is proud of the accomplishments of American Jews. “I think Jews are disproportionately represented in the creative industry. They’re disproportionate as lawyers and probably medicine here as well,” he said. He argues that this does not mean that Jews make pro-Jewish movies any more than they do pro-Jewish surgery...

[...] I appreciate Foxman’s concerns. And maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them... (MORE - missing details)

Nice list there CC. I'm well aware The Protocols are a forgery, and that many still pass it off as genuine. Yet it's contents eerily matches reality (with inevitable adaptations to changing tech etc.).
Something Henry Ford wryly noted, after being confronted with the forgery claims, around a century ago.
The resolution lies in understanding whoever stitched together The Protocols spiced up genuine intelligence with insertions from earlier works.
Proceedings of Theodor Herzl's first Zionist Congress of 1897, and some of his other written statements:
https://www.truetorahjews.org/herzl
, is credited by some for being art least partially the actual inspiration.

The current bout of non-accidental worldwide turmoil is set to play out disastrously for most if not everyone, so all the musings here are really moot. Popcorn anyone?

(Nov 7, 2022 05:20 AM)Kornee Wrote: You don't want to get it. Antisemitism as organized Jewry defines it is slapped on anyone with any valid criticisms of their nasty scheming.
I have no irrational hatred of Jews for simply being Jews. But many of The Tribe do have an irrational hatred of all goys especially whites. Fact.

Your belief in such conspiracy theories betrays that you do have an irrational hatred. That is the only way conspiracy theories get attached to a specific ethnicity. When a group is demonized as the source of all ills in the world, not based solely on ideology, but by membership in said group or nation, it is always a reaction of the insecure seeking a definitive target for their fear and ire. Not that you'd have the self-awareness or intellectual honesty to countenance that for even an instant.

Quote:As for Hitler, I'm aware of whitewash documentaries that portray him as the Great White Knight.
Jewry of course endlessly churns out material casting him as Pure Evil. The truth is somewhere in between.
He started out by rescuing Germany from the absolute misery imposed by the Treaty of Versailles. And Jewry's promotion of everything socially destructive.

So you identify with Hilter, as you're literally claiming to share his, at least early, motive. Got it.

Quote:Benjamin Freedman, another good Jew, will inform you on that one.
But went from savoir to destroyer with his ill considered military adventurism and overblown self-image as brilliant military strategist.
Which adventurism however was imo made essentially inevitable by both British intrigue and Soviet secret preparations to overrun Europe.

Another token Jew, huh? And more Hitler apologetics.


It's so telling all the things said to you that you avoid.

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Watch it, CC. He thinks you're warming up to his antisemitism.

Quote: "Watch it, CC. He thinks you're warming up to his antisemitism."
As usual presuming too much. This may come as a shock, but you are not actually an omniscient mind reader. Certainly not of mine. Do give your intolerant hate a rest. Please. See - I asked nicely.

See, so telling what he avoids responding to. Give him the faintest bait as an out, and he'll take it every time.