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Jan 15, 2022 09:18 PM
The original is here: https://youtu.be/6iaR3WO71j4
Fernando Ufret: cover of "Secret Agent Man" (Johnny Rivers)
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/9nBKqup8jgQ
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Jan 18, 2022 12:57 AM
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Leigha
Jan 18, 2022 01:24 AM
So true about, Dido! She’s a tough act to follow.
I like that “Lost in Yesterday” ^
Reminds me of someone else, but I can’t think of the artist right now.
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Jan 18, 2022 02:53 AM
Well, it's the same kind of retro vibe and falsetto as this:
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/pBkHHoOIIn8
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Jan 18, 2022 04:54 AM
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Jan 19, 2022 04:50 AM
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Sometimes vintage bands distort covers to the point where the foundation of the original gets completely lost, but I love this!
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Q4k7RKaX3EA
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Jan 19, 2022 05:31 AM
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^
(Jan 19, 2022 04:50 AM)Leigha Wrote: Sometimes vintage bands distort covers to the point where the foundation of the original gets completely lost, but I love this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4k7RKaX3EA
Yah, this is actually placing that song in the musical context it was unconsciously modeled on or meant for -- or consciously even, if Apple was deliberately channeling into that influence when writing it.
Venturing into a "what if" that unavoidably comes to my mind...
Aside from the problem of Apple and SNZ debuting in the same decade, the Squirrel Nut Zippers could never have done a cover of it because that "similar to Billie Holiday" voice of Katharine Whalen's just doesn't quite fit it. Certainly, Holiday's early [jazz] lounge singing was perfect for a film-noir type atmosphere lyric/melody of some kind. But not exactly the texture of "Criminal". (IMO, anyway. Would love to be proven wrong.)
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Leigha
Jan 19, 2022 09:21 PM
(Jan 19, 2022 05:31 AM)C C Wrote: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Yah, this is actually placing that song in the musical context it was unconsciously modeled on or meant for -- or consciously even, if Apple was deliberately channeling into that influence when writing it. Possibly right, but would anyone care since she seems pretty underrated.
Quote:Venturing into a "what if" that unavoidably comes to my mind...
Aside from the problem of Apple and SNZ debuting in the same decade, the Squirrel Nut Zippers could never have done a cover of it because that "similar to Billie Holiday" voice of Katharine Whalen's just doesn't quite fit it. Certainly, Holiday's early [jazz] lounge singing was perfect for a film-noir type atmosphere lyric/melody of some kind. But not exactly the texture of "Criminal". (IMO, anyway. Would love to be proven wrong.)
Not familiar with them, but...doing a little research, I wonder if they would have been more popular (whatever that means) if Disney didn't get involved. I'm not sure when that happened, but Disney ruins everything, imo. lol
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Jan 20, 2022 02:21 AM
(Jan 19, 2022 09:21 PM)Leigha Wrote: (Jan 19, 2022 05:31 AM)C C Wrote: Yah, this is actually placing that song in the musical context it was unconsciously modeled on or meant for -- or consciously even, if Apple was deliberately channeling into that influence when writing it.
Possibly right, but would anyone care since she seems pretty underrated.
Well, it figures... Fiona's childhood jazz influences literally were Billie Holiday and Ella Fitzgerald. So that arguably nixes my idea that the song would be somewhat incompatible with Katharine Whalen's vocal style. (Obviously, the instrumental part would have been a breeze for the original Squirrel band.)
Quote:Quote:Venturing into a "what if" that unavoidably comes to my mind...
Aside from the problem of Apple and SNZ debuting in the same decade, the Squirrel Nut Zippers could never have done a cover of it because that "similar to Billie Holiday" voice of Katharine Whalen's just doesn't quite fit it. Certainly, Holiday's early [jazz] lounge singing was perfect for a film-noir type atmosphere lyric/melody of some kind. But not exactly the texture of "Criminal". (IMO, anyway. Would love to be proven wrong.)
Not familiar with them, but...doing a little research, I wonder if they would have been more popular (whatever that means) if Disney didn't get involved. I'm not sure when that happened, but Disney ruins everything, imo. lol
If not the one below, then I bet you remember this one making the rounds on alt-rock stations. It was the Zips: https://youtu.be/yS2IBMQIjDo
Squirrel Nut Zippers slash Katherine Walen
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/na1yQ_fKUF0
Billie Holiday: "Strange Fruit" (1939)
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/wHGAMjwr_j8
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