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Syne
Nov 16, 2021 02:11 AM
(Nov 15, 2021 10:49 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Nov 15, 2021 10:20 PM)Syne Wrote: Yeah, I'm of the mind that if you believe in evolution, COVID is weeding out the less fit contributors to the gene pool. No where near risking an extinction level event.
That’s rich coming from a pro-lifer. I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution wholesale nor believes the world has any over-population problem (or even facing a climate catastrophe, in which fewer people would mean less pollution). You know, aside from the fact that being pro-life doesn't entail any kind of naive absolutism about making sure nobody ever dies. Death from natural causes is not the same as people willfully killing babies or justifiably killing convicted murderers. But then, no one ever accused you of understanding the pro-life position.
(Nov 16, 2021 01:24 AM)confused2 Wrote: In the UK I think we'd find it difficult to turn people away from a hospital even if they don't meet the entry requirements. The idea of having part of a car park set aside for the unvaxxed to die in actually sounds (to me) like more an indication of a wildly authoritarian state than one which merely imposes some restrictions on their freedom. The difference between authoritarian and "wildly authoritarian" is only one of degree. And history has proven the slippery slope from one to the other comes pre-greased.
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Secular Sanity
Nov 16, 2021 03:40 PM
(Nov 16, 2021 02:11 AM)Syne Wrote: I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution.
Evolution generates cooperation.
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Nov 16, 2021 04:26 PM
(Nov 16, 2021 03:40 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Nov 16, 2021 02:11 AM)Syne Wrote: I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution.
Evolution generates cooperation. And? If you go reread, I was talking about those who "believe in evolution," not evolution itself. Evolution doesn't preclude people from being consistent in their beliefs.
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Secular Sanity
Nov 16, 2021 04:52 PM
(Nov 16, 2021 04:26 PM)Syne Wrote: And? If you go reread, I was talking about those who "believe in evolution," not evolution itself. Evolution doesn't preclude people from being consistent in their beliefs.
Oh, I see. So, if you believe in evolution, you’re ignorant as to how evolution works.
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Syne
Nov 16, 2021 05:23 PM
(Nov 16, 2021 04:52 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Nov 16, 2021 04:26 PM)Syne Wrote: And? If you go reread, I was talking about those who "believe in evolution," not evolution itself. Evolution doesn't preclude people from being consistent in their beliefs.
Oh, I see. So, if you believe in evolution, you’re ignorant as to how evolution works.
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Ah, the mewling of the illiterate. Where, pray tell, did you feverishly imagine I said anything about anyone being ignorant of how evolution works?
Seems the only backpedaling here is your own projection. Now you're just making up completely fabricated or imagined bullshit to justify your lack of read comprehension.
Keep it up. It's fun to watch.
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Secular Sanity
Nov 16, 2021 07:01 PM
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(Nov 16, 2021 05:23 PM)Syne Wrote: Keep it up. It's fun to watch.
What's fun to watch is your ignorance on the topic. If you don't believe in evolution, maybe you should read about it before you discount it.
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Syne
Nov 16, 2021 08:26 PM
(Nov 16, 2021 07:01 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: (Nov 16, 2021 05:23 PM)Syne Wrote: Keep it up. It's fun to watch.
What's fun to watch is your ignorance on the topic. If you don't believe in evolution, maybe you should read about it before you discount it.
Again, try to exercise your comprehension skills more often. I never said I didn't believe in evolution, regardless of you dishonestly editing your quote of my post. I said "I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution wholesale..." Which of those words are you having trouble understanding? There's a qualifier there. Did you see it at all?
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Magical Realist
Nov 16, 2021 08:46 PM
Quote:"I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution wholesale.
Which part of "materialist evolution" don't you believe in. I could've sworn it was an open and shut case by now.
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Syne
Nov 16, 2021 09:04 PM
(Nov 16, 2021 08:46 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:"I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution wholesale.
Which part of "materialist evolution" don't you believe in. I could've sworn it was an open and shut case by now.
Really? So you can demonstrate speciation to a different phylum, abiogenesis, etc.? No, you just take that on faith?
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Magical Realist
Nov 16, 2021 09:13 PM
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(Nov 16, 2021 09:04 PM)Syne Wrote: (Nov 16, 2021 08:46 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:"I'm not the one who believes in materialist evolution wholesale.
Which part of "materialist evolution" don't you believe in. I could've sworn it was an open and shut case by now.
Really? So you can demonstrate speciation to a different phylum, abiogenesis, etc.? No, you just take that on faith?
"Speciation is an evolutionary process by which a new species comes into being. A species is a group of organisms that can reproduce with one another to produce fertile offspring and is reproductively isolated from other organisms. Speciation can be driven by evolution, which is a process that results in the accumulation of many small genetic changes called mutations in a population over a long period of time. There are a number of different mechanisms that may drive speciation. One of these is natural selection, which is a process that increases the frequency of advantageous gene variants, called alleles, in a population. Natural selection can result in organisms that are more likely to survive and reproduce and may eventually lead to speciation. A second process called genetic drift describes random fluctuations in allele frequencies in populations, which can eventually cause a population of organisms to be genetically distinct from its original population and result in the formation of a new species."--- https://www.nature.com/scitable/definiti...ation-183/
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