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Jul 29, 2019 07:44 PM
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(Jul 29, 2019 01:30 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Two guys with too much time on their hands. Smart enough to pull the hoax off using poor lighting. Looks like fire cabinet sans hose. That opening below the fire cabinet needs to be explained.
My guess is that whatever was slamming the door came through there and retracted as the cameras approached. The guys that made the video might have had a friend on the other side of the wall who was pulling on something.
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Magical Realist
Jul 29, 2019 07:57 PM
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(Jul 29, 2019 07:44 PM)Yazata Wrote: (Jul 29, 2019 01:30 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Two guys with too much time on their hands. Smart enough to pull the hoax off using poor lighting. Looks like fire cabinet sans hose. That opening below the fire cabinet needs to be explained.
My guess is that whatever was slamming the door came through there and retracted as the cameras approached. The guys that made the video might have had a friend on the other side of the wall who was pulling on something.
LOL! The hidden string puller again, opening AND slamming the door shut. Must be a really stiff invisible string.
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Zinjanthropos
Jul 29, 2019 10:11 PM
LOL..The old no possible way anything like this can be faked again routine. Brazilians wouldn’t dare
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Magical Realist
Jul 29, 2019 11:02 PM
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(Jul 29, 2019 10:11 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: LOL..The old no possible way anything like this can be faked again routine. Brazilians wouldn’t dare
Real debunkers know they have to present evidence for their claims. You otoh never present any evidence at all. Just some bullshit about the sound of the door slamming and a subway somewhere, whatever that means. Making up shit is all you have to deny the evidence right before you. Which is why nothing you say is ever a debunk of anything. It's just bogus bullshit you came up with because you don't want to believe in the paranormal. Sounds like a personal problem to me. You have no interest in knowing the truth. You just want to defend your worldview. Which is the opposite of a truly scientific attitude.
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Zinjanthropos
Jul 29, 2019 11:41 PM
(Jul 29, 2019 11:02 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Jul 29, 2019 10:11 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: LOL..The old no possible way anything like this can be faked again routine. Brazilians wouldn’t dare
Real debunkers know they have to present evidence for their claims. You otoh never present any evidence at all. Just some bullshit about the sound of the door slamming and a subway somewhere, whatever that means. Making up shit is all you have to deny the evidence right before you. Which is why nothing you say is ever a debunk of anything. It's just bogus bullshit you came up with because you don't want to believe in the paranormal. Sounds like a personal problem to me. You have no interest in knowing the truth. You just want to defend your worldview. Which is the opposite of a truly scientific attitude.
Give it a rest MR. These rebuttals are getting old. Street lights, upside down photos & most recently simple parlour tricks have all been sure signs of paranormal in your mind. Ever wonder why? Why in all honesty should anyone believe the stuff your shelling out is the real thing?
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Magical Realist
Jul 30, 2019 12:06 AM
Quote:Why in all honesty should anyone believe the stuff your shelling out is the real thing?
Why would anyone think this video is an elaborate hoax without any evidence whatsoever? Is it because Brazilians are somehow more untrustworthy than other people? That sounds kinda racist.
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Zinjanthropos
Jul 30, 2019 03:49 AM
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(Jul 30, 2019 12:06 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Why in all honesty should anyone believe the stuff your shelling out is the real thing?
Why would anyone think this video is an elaborate hoax without any evidence whatsoever? Is it because Brazilians are somehow more untrustworthy than other people? That sounds kinda racist.
Although recent track record is terrible just tell us why when you say there’s a ghost that we should all believe you.
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Magical Realist
Jul 30, 2019 04:34 AM
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Quote:Although recent track record is terrible just tell us why when you say there’s a ghost that we should all believe you.
Objects moving by themselves is one of the prime indicators of paranormal activity. Some might even call it the holy grail of paranormal evidence. This is based on many investigators spending countless hours at haunted locations witnessing and recording events that happen there. It's also based on eyewitness accounts of poltergeists haunting families. This video, just as others I have posted, is compelling evidence for the paranormal. It is what it is. It's that simple.
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Zinjanthropos
Jul 30, 2019 06:58 PM
(Jul 30, 2019 04:34 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Although recent track record is terrible just tell us why when you say there’s a ghost that we should all believe you.
Objects moving by themselves is one of the prime indicators of paranormal activity. Some might even call it the holy grail of paranormal evidence. This is based on many investigators spending countless hours at haunted locations witnessing and recording events that happen there. It's also based on eyewitness accounts of poltergeists haunting families. This video, just as others I have posted, is compelling evidence for the paranormal. It is what it is. It's that simple.
Even if it took a million years I personally could never accept that as a reason to believe in ghosts. So perhaps that’s where you & I differ. I can only guess evolution has both of us heading down different roads. Is it only those with a similar inclination to me that have the guile to pull off incredible hoaxes? Is our side bullying the believers?
Either that or your having a go at us skeptics by playing the belief game. Kind of a bullying process in its own right. You have fun tormenting the skeptics making us believe you’re a true paranormal believer. Being a skeptic, that has definitely crossed my mind on several occasions. With recent true evidence, this feeling I have about your sincerity grows stronger. Are you a big phoney, MR. ?
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Magical Realist
Jul 30, 2019 07:05 PM
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(Jul 30, 2019 06:58 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: (Jul 30, 2019 04:34 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Although recent track record is terrible just tell us why when you say there’s a ghost that we should all believe you.
Objects moving by themselves is one of the prime indicators of paranormal activity. Some might even call it the holy grail of paranormal evidence. This is based on many investigators spending countless hours at haunted locations witnessing and recording events that happen there. It's also based on eyewitness accounts of poltergeists haunting families. This video, just as others I have posted, is compelling evidence for the paranormal. It is what it is. It's that simple.
Even if it took a million years I personally could never accept that as a reason to believe in ghosts. So perhaps that’s where you & I differ. I can only guess evolution has both of us heading down different roads. Is it only those with a similar inclination to me that have the guile to pull off incredible hoaxes? Is our side bullying the believers?
Either that or your having a go at us skeptics by playing the belief game. Kind of a bullying process in its own right. You have fun tormenting the skeptics making us believe you’re a true paranormal believer. Being a skeptic, that has definitely crossed my mind on several occasions. With recent true evidence, this feeling I have about your sincerity grows stronger. Are you a big phoney, MR. ?
Whatever you have to believe to support your worldview. That is your prime motivation afterall.
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