Culinary style: Do crabs & lobsters deserve protection from being cooked alive?

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https://aeon.co/ideas/crabs-and-lobsters...oked-alive

EXCERPT: Crabs and lobsters have a tough time at the hands of humans. In most countries, they are excluded from the scope of animal welfare legislation, so nothing you do to them is illegal. The result is that they are treated in ways that would clearly be cruel if inflicted on a vertebrate.

This might in part be because they are so alien to us. It is hard to begin to imagine the inner life of a 10-legged, faceless creature with a nervous system distributed throughout its body. Worse still, crustaceans lack the headline-grabbing intelligence of the octopus. With only about 100,000 neurons in their nervous system compared with the octopus’s 500 million, crabs and lobsters are unlikely to set the ocean alight with their cognitive prowess. They are easy to overlook and difficult to empathise with.

Nevertheless, if you care about animal welfare, you should care what happens to crabs and lobsters. Consider live boiling. The animal often takes minutes to die, during which it writhes around and sheds its limbs. Crustaceans can be killed in seconds with knives, but most non-specialists don’t know the right technique. Electrocution using a ‘Crustastun’ takes about 10 seconds, and is probably as humane as it gets, but the expense of this device means it is hardly standard kitchen equipment. Some processing plants use them (and some UK supermarkets require their suppliers to do so), but many do not, and there is no legal requirement to stun. Crabs are often still, as one recent study put it, ‘processed in a live state’. ‘Processed’ here is a euphemism for ‘carved alive’.

Does any of this matter ethically? For many, the key question here is whether these animals are capable of feeling anything – whether they are sentient. If they feel nothing as they are boiled or carved alive, then ethical qualms about these practices seem as misplaced as they would be for vegetables. But if they do feel – if they are sentient – then they are cruel and inhumane.

So what is the reality?...

MORE: https://aeon.co/ideas/crabs-and-lobsters...oked-alive
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Magical Realist Online
I just watched Charlotte's Web last nite. I'm not prone to let anyone with more than 4 limbs suffer on my account. But I dooz like me some nice crab cakes. Smile
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Zinjanthropos Offline
I don't think it is out of the realm of possibly that aquatic creatures have been boiled alive by naturally occurring phenomena. Fish, amphibians and the like were boiled alive during the Mt St Helens eruption from what I understand. Besides dead is dead, boiled or eaten alive. Watch those nature shows where the lions take down a wildebeest for instance, they usually start chompin' while their prey is still alive.

Maybe I should start a petition against the killing of human sperm. Imagine trapped in a rubber sack and flushed down the toilet while still wriggling. Imagine being killed when you're just trying to do what your designed for. It's inhumane I tell ya. Can't lie about it so I won't mention that living sperm on occasion end up in poisonous environments, sometimes left to dry, and yes even swallowed whole( did I say that?). Something so human, suffering the same fate as any live animal confronting digestive juices, oh! the humanity.
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Syne Offline
Um, you're not suppose to flush those.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 20, 2017 09:43 PM)Syne Wrote: Um, you're not suppose to flush those.

Michigan Whitefish.
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Secular Sanity Offline
I don’t think you should be swallowing them either, Zinman.  Big Grin

Holy crap!  I just saw this.  I didn’t even know there was such a thing. Gross!

LIFE FEEDING
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Syne Offline
Too afraid to click that link. Anything like John Podesta's "spirit cooking"?
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Nov 21, 2017 04:11 AM)Syne Wrote: Too afraid to click that link. Anything like John Podesta's "spirit cooking"?

It's people eating live seafood.   Confused
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 21, 2017 03:50 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I don’t think you should be swallowing them either, Zinman.  Big Grin

Wouldn't know. Both sexes to blame. The indiscriminate killing of millions.  Angel
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(Nov 21, 2017 03:50 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I don’t think you should be swallowing them either, Zinman.  Big Grin

Holy crap!  I just saw this.  I didn’t even know there was such a thing. Gross!

LIFE FEEDING


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ZbKmz6NiFoI

if you were raised like this(as being a very normal social construct) then it would not seem like a big deal at all.
survival of the fittests is the absolute.
life is cheap, struggle or die.
chinese culture has been like this for centurys.
still many just laugh out loud when people say the expresion "animal rights" because they have been raised to percieve that they are fghting to surive & if they dont take it someone else will.
i have spoken to many chinese people whom have laid it out very clearly.
being lazy is as close to being considered a criminal as you can be without being vilified.
when something is concieved as "free" like a buffet meal, you take as much as you can carry as fast as you can.

there is some international cultural issues around this as some more internationally and culturaly aware chinese start to feel put-out by the jungle-fever type attitude towards these types of things displayed when chinese people go into an international hotel or restaurant.

Mike Chen video(i like mike chen)

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/6Yl4Lxy9IXA


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/aidmbodGujA


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/aidmbodGujA
"they are not chinese food, they are slop" lol straight talking
adorable couple.
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