Defeat negative thoughts / feelings + What to do when life sucks + Happiness at work

(Jun 25, 2017 01:44 AM)Syne Wrote: Where's some significant statistics? Oh wait, why am I asking the guy who doesn't understand the difference between empirical and anecdotal evidence?

Still don't know what at-will employment is, huh? LOL!

Statistics for what? You're denying these things happen? On what basis?

(Jun 25, 2017 04:11 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:

(Jun 25, 2017 01:44 AM)Syne Wrote: Where's some significant statistics? Oh wait, why am I asking the guy who doesn't understand the difference between empirical and anecdotal evidence?

Still don't know what at-will employment is, huh? LOL!

Statistics for what? You're denying these things happen? On what basis?

Who ever said they don't happen? O_o

Where is your significant evidence that they occur other than anecdotally? O_o
After all, you seem to be making the claim that some people have no control over their own quality of life in the US, even though all evidence says you just have to do three things to avoid lifelong poverty...graduate high school, get a job, and marry before having children....and that earning more money than the upper limit of the lower middle class doesn't improve happiness. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/ar...28,00.html

Quote:Who ever said they don't happen? O_o

Good. So you admit they occur and therefore that other people can have a significant impact on the quality of one's life. You lose..

Quote:and that earning more money than the upper limit of the lower middle class doesn't improve happiness.

Who said anything about happiness? We were talking quality of life. Remember?

"Quality of life (QOL) is the general well-being of individuals and societies, outlining negative and positive features of life. It observes life satisfaction, including everything from physical health, family, education, employment, wealth, religious beliefs, finance and the environment."---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_life

(Jun 25, 2017 08:43 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:Who ever said they don't happen? O_o

Good. So you admit they occur and therefore that other people can have a significant impact on the quality of one's life. You lose..

Yes, we all know this is just a game to you, troll.
That things happen does not de facto mean that individuals lack any responsibility for their own lot in life.

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Quote:and that earning more money than the upper limit of the lower middle class doesn't improve happiness.

Who said anything about happiness? We were talking quality of life. Remember?

Yep, remember where I gave you the definition of "quality of life" (e.g. "the standard of health, comfort, and happiness")?

Quote:"Quality of life (QOL) is the general well-being of individuals and societies, outlining negative and positive features of life. It observes life satisfaction, including everything from physical health, family, education, employment, wealth, religious beliefs, finance and the environment."---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_life

And....? O_o

Quote:That things happen does not de facto mean that individuals lack any responsibility for their own lot in life.

That's not up to you to decide you self-righteous prig. Some people start way before the starting line. Some start way after it. Some people have more on their plate genetically, enviromentally, etc. Other's have less. The last thing we need is some racist prick like you judging them for not being responsible enough about being happy. You're not privy to to what they have to go thru and struggle against.

Quote:Yep, remember where I gave you the definition of "quality of life" (e.g. "the standard of health, comfort, and happiness")

You're the one shifting the goalposts from quality of life to happiness. They're not the same as yours and my own definition prove.

(Jun 25, 2017 10:14 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:That things happen does not de facto mean that individuals lack any responsibility for their own lot in life.

That's not up to you to decide you self-righteous prig. Some people start way before the starting line. Some start way after it. Some people have more on their plate genetically, enviromentally, etc. Other's have less. The last thing we need is some racist prick like you judging them for not being responsible enough about being happy. You're not privy to to what they have to go thru and struggle against.

So...it's for YOU to decide? You know, because you don't believe blacks can accomplish anything on their own.
Responsibility is a wholly internal trait. Only the things people blame to excuse their lack of responsibility are external.
Your seeming inability to understand that simple fact would indicate you are actively blaming circumstances and others for things you have the ability to change for the better in your own life.

Blacks starting from the very same starting line as criminals and abject failures become doctors and lawyers all the time. How do you explain the disparity in their success? Does racism somehow magically favor some blacks over others? O_o

Nope, it's just your regularly demonstrated racist assumptions that dismiss obvious evidence of personal accountability in favor of your presumption that all blacks are somehow inherently lesser than other races.

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Quote:Yep, remember where I gave you the definition of "quality of life" (e.g. "the standard of health, comfort, and happiness")

You're the one shifting the goalposts from quality of life to happiness. They're not the same as yours and my own definition prove.

Who said they were the same? O_o
Both satisfaction and happiness are measures of quality of life...as both definitions illustrate.

You're really reaching for straw man arguments.

Quote:So...it's for YOU to decide? Dodgy You know, because you don't believe blacks can accomplish anything on their own.
Responsibility is a wholly internal trait. Only the things people blame to excuse their lack of responsibility are external.
Your seeming inability to understand that simple fact would indicate you are actively blaming circumstances and others for things you have the ability to change for the better in your own life.

Blacks starting from the very same starting line as criminals and abject failures become doctors and lawyers all the time. How do you explain the disparity in their success? Does racism somehow magically favor some blacks over others? O_o

Nope, it's just your regularly demonstrated racist assumptions that dismiss obvious evidence of personal accountability in favor of your presumption that all blacks are somehow inherently lesser than other races.

Like I said, it's not for you to decide how responsible a person is for their own success or happiness. Like I said, everyone is dealt their own genetic and environmental cards that determine what is possible for them. Some people can become doctors. Some remain garbage men. Who the fuck are you to judge and say they should all be measured up to your own ideal of what is successful? They deal with issues that you know nothing about. Poverty, racism, crime, and lack of education, as well as the standard mix of psychological issues. Leave these people alone and tend to yourself you pathetic bigot.

Quote:Who said they were the same? O_o

You are by substituting one for the other. They are different. One is a measure of one's objective state in the world, while the other is a subjective state. We are not talking about happiness. We are talking quality of life. And you know it. And your delusional statement that people don't affect other people's quality of life without their permission has been refuted. Moving on.

More sad little straw men. Where did I ever say there was only one standard of success?
But they are all equally responsible for their own happiness, whatever that may mean to them. But no doubt you're one of the pathetic, self-medicated, chronically depressed or otherwise psychologically hobbled who has a host of favored life-long crutches you use to justify your own lack of personal success and happiness. That's the only explanation why you think me posting here doesn't "Leave these people alone". Because you're one of them.

But please, do tell me, how is personal responsibility effected by external causes? O_o

"Satisfaction" isn't a "subjective state"? O_o You can't even make an argument that respects your own definition. What a joke. Loser.

Quote:"Leave these people alone". Because you're one of them.

LOL! No... I'm white and slender and without ethnicity and male and undisabled the last time I checked. Unless ofcourse you want to count my sexual orientation. But then that's not something people can infer about me by looking. So it's a total non issue.

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Quote:"Satisfaction" isn't a "subjective state"?

Like I said, quality of life is an objective state. That's what you were talking about. Quality of life.

(Jun 26, 2017 03:24 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:"Leave these people alone". Because you're one of them.

LOL! No... I'm white and slender and without ethnicity and male and undisabled the last time I checked. Unless ofcourse you want to count my sexual orientation. But then that's not something people can infer about me by looking. So it's a total non issue.

Well, that only leaves you suffering from "psychological issues" then...but we already knew that one.

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Quote:"Satisfaction" isn't a "subjective state"?

Like I said, quality of life is an objective state. That's what you were talking about. Quality of life.

Yet your own definition included this subjective metric. Make up your obviously addled mind.