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Jim Jones: embodiment of the most extreme Leftangelical archetype? (poltical games)

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The infamous cult leader Jim Jones was an avowed Marxist. Practicing the latter's strategic exploitation of altruism -- in the context of socioeconomic struggle against hegemonic (dominant or privileged) classes and cultural groups (those targets rewardingly shift and expand over time) -- he was thereby a charismatic opponent of ethnic injustice. Jones used that crusader image as a cult recruiting tool, even adopting his own promotional Rainbow Family of children.

He was also a fan of Hitler. Which might seem contradictory, given that many groups contributing to Antifa protests are ideologically collectivist. The discord is superficial, when taking into account both the past and current history of Marxist activity. The later has practiced its own population cleansing projects and pioneered the use of gas prior to the Nazis: "Many died at the penal labor camps of starvation, disease, exposure, and overwork. Other methods of dispatching victims were used on an experimental basis. In Moscow, the use of gas vans used to kill the victims during their transportation to the Butovo firing range was documented.". China has and continues to sport its own evolving version of nationalism (in the earlier stage, many Mao worshipers in the social activist New Left during the 60s and 70s).

While it's contended that the National Socialist German Workers’ Party were "fake" socialists, this is vaguely akin (sans the darker stuff) to the triviality of declaring impressionist Rich Little a bogus John Wayne whenever he imitated the Duke. [Or substitute Humphrey Bogart, if JW is too sacred for you.] "John Wayne" was an illusory facade itself, the partly invented, partly borrowed creation of Marion Morrison: "'[Wyatt] Earp was the man who had actually done the things in his life that I was trying to do in a movie. I imitated his walk; I imitated his talk.' Through this transference of identity, the legend of Earp played out in the infamous heroes portrayed by the Duke, and the modern American Western hero was born."

Which is to say, there were actually two levels of propaganda phoniness there, if the German Worker's Party was pretending to be on the "prole brown-nosing" spectrum. Preplanned, formally expressed analytic/post-captalist ideologies (like Karl's) can profess themselves to have _X_ values on paper, but it is one's actual, long-term behavior and developmental consequences that expose the full nature of the beast: Intellectual sect of manipulative sphincters IS as intellectual sect of manipulative sphincters DOES.

The ultimate desire for authoritarian control is the same, but collectivists camouflage themselves much more adeptly behind do-gooder propaganda and gestures ("we're here to rescue you oppressed folk" while actually just setting up to incrementally become the new masters or micro-managing control freaks). Nazis and alt-rightists are like clumsy dogs compared to the suave cats (Leftarians) -- the former are just sloppily "right out there" with what they are, tongue hanging out. After the first round of success goes under, they become wickedly blunt and incompetent at concealing their nature compared to enduring duplicitous skills of the felines.

In his own mind, Jim Jones channeled to that deeper level where Hitler and Marxism were harmonious. Over the course of the 20th century, more people were killed by the latter than the WWII atrocities of fascists. If one claims it is heinous to borrow from the tactics and ideas of Nazism, then likewise it is wrong to borrow from Marxist templates and literature.

A key difference, however, is that sympathy for left ideology has pervaded the academic, entertainment, and journalistic spheres for decades, generating waves of elite apologetics for either excusing or obscuring that very indebtedness. There's a closed system of complex loop-interacting circularity where one category of enterprise may discreetly act to shield or reinforce another. Whether it's the hideously unreliable social sciences squatting down to primly excrete a big spiral of data mishmash to indirectly bolster a humanities dogma, or comedians engaging in disinformation parodies and dramas reveling in stereotypes and caricatures of criticism sources.

Such networks of in-group bias don't require a central mastermind (like Jones), a grand scheme, or a conspiratorial faction in the background as an origin and regulator. But arise from self-organization via the shared personal interests and thought orientations of local individuals mutually converging to benefit their herd and to advance or safeguard agenda. Contingent reactions from call-out or shaming culture (which existed in slower mode long prior to its manifestation on the internet) also helps secure that scattered participants conform to in-group preferences, not unlike high school cliques. Funding sources, company, and campus policy-making additionally prod compliance or loyalty signaling to ideological views and fashionable trends.

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Syne Offline
This is why the only true political scale is authoritarianism to liberterianism, plotted on one line, rather than a two-axis grid that only works to hide authoritarian motives in outward propaganda. On such a scale, all authoritarians are on the left, including Nazism, communism, socialism, etc., and the extreme right is anarchy. Now some might claim that the likes of Antifa are anarchist, but their end goals and Brownshirt tactics expose them as authoritarian. They only differ from the left in their impatience for totalitarian authority.
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Magical Realist Offline
"Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary and harmful[1][2] as well as opposing authority and hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Proponents of anarchism, known as anarchists, advocate stateless societies based on non-hierarchical[3][9][10] voluntary associations.[11][12] While anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary and harmful,[13] opposition to the state is not its central or sole definition.[14] Anarchism can entail opposing authority or hierarchy in the conduct of all human relations.[15][16][17][18]

Anarchism is often considered a far-left ideology[19] and much of its economics and legal philosophy reflect anti-authoritarian interpretations of communism, collectivism, syndicalism, mutualism, or participatory economics.[20] "---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issues_in_anarchism#:~:text=Anarchism%20is%20often%20considered%20a,%2C%20mutualism%2C%20or%20participatory%20economics.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, democracy, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4][5][6]
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Syne Offline
^^Complete bullshit. For one, there are no "anti-authoritarian interpretations of communism" on any scale greater than a large extended family (hence why communes always fail). And the far-left is highly authoritarian, in the "forcible suppression of opposition" speech, the "strong regimentation of society" to ward off climate change/systemic racism and control the economy enough to redistribute wealth. Only a moron thinks Marxism is among liberalism and democracy.

It's the right (in the US anyway) that is for small government, embraces libertarianism (classic liberalism, including the kind of Berkley in the 60s), and only further in that direction would any anarchist actually reside. A real anarchist is the survivalist who lives far enough in the wild that government is absolutely irrelevant. Not the morons living off welfare or in tents on sidewalks, protesting all the time. The likes of "antifa" show their fascist tendencies to use violence all the time.

And as usual, MR has nothing but mindless appeals to authority.
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