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Syne
Nov 26, 2020 10:27 PM
(Nov 26, 2020 08:18 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: (Nov 26, 2020 06:51 PM)Leigha Wrote: It may cause people to take unnecessary risks or discount the severity of risks they’re taking, by having a false sense of security. George Zimmerman comes to mind - a guy who more than likely would not have followed a teenager through his neighborhood (whom he deemed as sketchy), and then provoking a fight with said teenager, if he (George) hadn’t been carrying a gun.
This isn’t to say all gun owners think like this, but it might be more common than we think.
Interesting because both may have had a false sense of security.
With one more accurate than the other.
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Leigha
Nov 27, 2020 03:01 AM
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(Nov 26, 2020 07:28 PM)Syne Wrote: (Nov 26, 2020 06:51 PM)Leigha Wrote: It may cause people to take unnecessary risks or discount the severity of risks they’re taking, by having a false sense of security. George Zimmerman comes to mind - a guy who more than likely would not have followed a teenager through his neighborhood (whom he deemed as sketchy), and then provoking a fight with said teenager, if he (George) hadn’t been carrying a gun.
This isn’t to say all gun owners think like this, but it might be more common than we think.
Zimmerman was acquitted. And stand your ground laws allow you to go anywhere you're legally allowed, even following suspicious people, without any duty to flee from someone threatening you. Otherwise, your freedom is limited by anyone who threatens your safety. Those who trade freedom for safety deserve neither. No one knows, for a fact, that Zimmerman provoked anything.
Everyone should feel free to go anywhere in public without fear.
He was wrongfully acquitted, imo. Trayvon Martin could’ve been scared, an armed guy was following him for no valid reason. Maybe Martin was standing his ground?
(Nov 26, 2020 08:18 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: (Nov 26, 2020 06:51 PM)Leigha Wrote: It may cause people to take unnecessary risks or discount the severity of risks they’re taking, by having a false sense of security. George Zimmerman comes to mind - a guy who more than likely would not have followed a teenager through his neighborhood (whom he deemed as sketchy), and then provoking a fight with said teenager, if he (George) hadn’t been carrying a gun.
This isn’t to say all gun owners think like this, but it might be more common than we think.
Interesting because both may have had a false sense of security.
Valid point, but do you think Zimmerman would’ve stalked Trayvon Martin that night had he not been carrying a gun? I don’t.
Sorry to go off topic though. I just thought that fits a good example of a false sense of security.
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Syne
Nov 27, 2020 03:14 AM
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(Nov 27, 2020 03:01 AM)Leigha Wrote: (Nov 26, 2020 07:28 PM)Syne Wrote: Zimmerman was acquitted. And stand your ground laws allow you to go anywhere you're legally allowed, even following suspicious people, without any duty to flee from someone threatening you. Otherwise, your freedom is limited by anyone who threatens your safety. Those who trade freedom for safety deserve neither. No one knows, for a fact, that Zimmerman provoked anything.
Everyone should feel free to go anywhere in public without fear.
He was wrongfully acquitted, imo. Trayvon Martin could’ve been scared, an armed guy was following him for no valid reason. Maybe Martin was standing his ground?
Then you're ignorant of the relevant laws and evidence. Period.
The courts ruled. And you said:
(Nov 8, 2020 06:33 AM)Leigha Wrote: From a spiritual view:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. Romans 13:1–2
I've come to view that passage as God doesn't want us to respect those in authority necessarily because they're good people (I don't think Joe Biden is a bad person, however, but he's flawed like the rest of us) rather, God wants us to respect that He allowed that person into a leadership role.
God put the judges in their position of authority, right? So why don't you respect the ruling as God's will?
You can't cherry-pick what you believe is God's will and what isn't.
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Nov 27, 2020 03:19 AM
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My opinion that the jury “got it wrong” doesn’t diminish my faith. Lol What? o_O
They're lay people like you and me...and sometimes, juries get it wrong. But, that's just my opinion.
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Syne
Nov 27, 2020 07:12 AM
(Nov 27, 2020 03:19 AM)Leigha Wrote: My opinion that the jury “got it wrong” doesn’t diminish my faith. Lol What? o_O
They're lay people like you and me...and sometimes, juries get it wrong. But, that's just my opinion.
So God's will is done in politicians gaining power, but not in a jury being empaneled? Doesn't the jury have authority granted by the court...which according to you, is granted by God?
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