7 Reasons a cuttlefish may be smarter than you

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Lightbulb  Leigha Offline
The big, brawny males usually win the lady cuttlefish, but every once in a while, a small male gets his chance. He does this by splitting his colors to show typically "female patterns" on the side of his body facing a larger male while showing his "masculine" side to the female of his choice. Then, he sidles up to her and commences mating before the other male has figured it out.

https://animals.howstuffworks.com/marine...lefish.htm


I've been reading about cuttlefish, and this point about their ability to ''gender bend,'' is remarkable, no? It's fascinating what these male fish will do to mate! Cuttlefish are eaten in some countries, and are prepared similar to squid. They also launch a display of incredible colors to hypnotize their prey, yet they're color blind. I'm sure these creatures keep scientists guessing. Big Grin
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Syne Offline
One of my favorite creatures in the world. Truly amazing. But if someone told me they tasted like ambrosia, I'd try it.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Has evolution favoured cunningness or brawn? Did we evolve similarly, our ancestors outfoxing one another?
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Leigha Offline
(Nov 20, 2020 06:18 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Has evolution favoured cunningness or brawn? Did we evolve similarly, our ancestors outfoxing one another?

I think both. Women like strong men (physically) but we also like cleverness, wit, intelligence. I’m sure men who lack “brawn,” have had to find ways to gain an advantage in the dating world. I kinda feel bad for the female cuttlefish - do they realize they’re being tricked?

(Nov 20, 2020 08:28 AM)Syne Wrote: One of my favorite creatures in the world. Truly amazing. But if someone told me they tasted like ambrosia, I'd try it.

Lol 

Sounds like if they’re fried, they taste like calamari.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote:I kinda feel bad for the female cuttlefish - do they realize they’re being tricked?


They're probably happy with either the young stud or the seasoned veteran. I'm going to say the female cuttlefish has the best of the situation and is one hell of a lot smarter than the male who's brain, like those of males of many species, moves south when it's time. Did I mention awareness of power? Smile
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Leigha Offline
(Nov 20, 2020 07:31 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:I kinda feel bad for the female cuttlefish - do they realize they’re being tricked?


They're probably happy with either the young stud or the seasoned veteran. I'm going to say the female cuttlefish has the best of the situation

I don't know 'bout that.   Confused

Cuttlefish start to actively mate at around five months of age. Eventually, the larger male cuttlefish mate with the females by grabbing them with their tentacles, turning the female so that the two animals are face-to-face, then using a specialized tentacle to insert sperm sacs into an opening near the female's mouth.(wikipedia)

But, more than likely, this is just the ways things are in their world. I wonder if there's any such thing as ''consent'' when it comes to animals mating? Hmm.

Not sure if we can entirely answer that question without some degree of anthropomorphization entering in.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 20, 2020 09:22 PM)Leigha Wrote:
(Nov 20, 2020 07:31 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:I kinda feel bad for the female cuttlefish - do they realize they’re being tricked?


They're probably happy with either the young stud or the seasoned veteran. I'm going to say the female cuttlefish has the best of the situation

I don't know 'bout that.   Confused

Cuttlefish start to actively mate at around five months of age. Eventually, the larger male cuttlefish mate with the females by grabbing them with their tentacles, turning the female so that the two animals are face-to-face, then using a specialized tentacle to insert sperm sacs into an opening near the female's mouth.(wikipedia)

But, more than likely, this is just the ways things are in their world. I wonder if there's any such thing as ''consent'' when it comes to animals mating? Hmm.

Not sure if we can entirely answer that question without some degree of anthropomorphization entering in.

The manner in which they have sex isn’t important. Most importantly the species are guaranteed genetic material from one who has survived to adulthood and the youngster who quite possibly has the adult animal’s genes too, but an improved model.
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Leigha Offline
(Nov 20, 2020 09:45 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Nov 20, 2020 09:22 PM)Leigha Wrote:
(Nov 20, 2020 07:31 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:I kinda feel bad for the female cuttlefish - do they realize they’re being tricked?


They're probably happy with either the young stud or the seasoned veteran. I'm going to say the female cuttlefish has the best of the situation

I don't know 'bout that.   Confused

Cuttlefish start to actively mate at around five months of age. Eventually, the larger male cuttlefish mate with the females by grabbing them with their tentacles, turning the female so that the two animals are face-to-face, then using a specialized tentacle to insert sperm sacs into an opening near the female's mouth.(wikipedia)

But, more than likely, this is just the ways things are in their world. I wonder if there's any such thing as ''consent'' when it comes to animals mating? Hmm.

Not sure if we can entirely answer that question without some degree of anthropomorphization entering in.

The manner in which they have sex isn’t important. Most importantly the species are guaranteed genetic material from one who has survived to adulthood and the youngster who quite possibly has the adult animal’s genes too, but an improved model.

I know, but just wondering on a broad scale. Nonetheless, it’s fascinating that they know so much.
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