Election fraud

[Syne]

Democrats are not patriots, as they hate America any time a Republican is President. Leftists literally hoped, and some politicians made sure, that the economy would do badly before the election...and even still, until the GA run-off election to determine control of the Senate. Nothing is more important to Democrats than power. Not poor people suffering in a bad economy nor patriotism or even just wanting their country and fellow citizens to do well. Biden is no better, as he's been in politics for 47 years, and all he has to show for it is the crime bill that sent more minorities to prison. No matter how long me may remain in office, Biden was always going to be a puppet for the far left...just one that lies about his true intent. And because he seems harmless, gullible people believe him.

Third party candidates are a wasted vote, at best, especially when many independents and libertarians already find themselves aligned with Republicans, and most the rest are willfully ignorant.

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Our voting system is fine.

Boy, this one is living in the legacy media bubble, well insulated from facts.

[Leigha]

Our voting system is fine. The only embarrassment is that we elected a pathological liar for our president who is attacking the democratic process as fraudulent just because he lost the election. The sooner he and his tweets disappear from the news cycle the better for all of us.

Do you think there was no fraud at all?

[Magical Realist]

Our voting system is fine. The only embarrassment is that we elected a pathological liar for our president who is attacking the democratic process as fraudulent just because he lost the election. The sooner he and his tweets disappear from the news cycle the better for all of us.

Do you think there was no fraud at all?

Yes..no fraud has turned up..and certainly no evidence the election was rigged in favor of Biden.

[Yazata]

Democrats are not patriots

They hate patriotism. Identifying with and loving one's country is "chauvinism" and "xenophobia" in their eyes. That's a big part of why President Trump's 'America first' agenda set them off so. I think that most of them (their intellectuals at least, maybe not so much their former working class base) identify with some airy globalist ideal of "humanity" in which nations have ceased to exist. (But where everyone on Earth inexplicably shares all of their "liberal" cultural values - women's equality, gay rights, all of that. Good luck convincing most of the Islamic world or China, which derive from very different cultural histories. (Presumably they will all have to be coerced into compliance too.)

If there's anything short of that impossibly totalitarian vision that democrats identify with, it's the European Union which at its leadership level at least, embodies their kind of "post-nationalist" vision. Democrats try to model themselves on the more woke sort of European social democrats, who they imagine to be the world's most sophisticated people. Democrats have always been people who would feel more at home in Paris than in Oklahoma City. They believe that the average American is an atavistic redneck who has to be dragged kicking and screaming into their brave new future, even if it means subverting democracy to do it. (It's all for a higher good you see.) They think that they are doing the world a service by trying to destroy everything that average Americans identify with and believe in - the flag, the country's founding fathers, its history, its monuments, its traditions, God... Anything to destroy the atavistic culturally defining identifications so as to make Americans good global citizens or whatever it's imagined to be. All while their own values and beliefs inexplicably float immaculate above all the cultural carnage. There's seemingly no awareness that their supposedly enlightened beliefs are all culturally constructed too, products of the very civilization that they are trying to destroy.

It's the opposite of patriotism. It's as close to being anti-patriotism as one can get.

[C C]

We actually ran into a Democrat at a neighbor's wedding who was bragging about voting multiple times, how it was a duty. Think he was just being facetious, but who knows. (I.e., wasn't exactly an electric bulb in terms of awareness yet that his new in-law and many of the guests weren't of his political persuasion.) Goes back to the old days of "Southern Democrat domination" applying in similar function if not in name label to some states that weren't Dixie. Lots of corruption back then, not just in the South -- KKK members and so forth sympathizers were Dems -- on the rare occasions they couldn't prevent you from registering or obstruct you from voting, then fraud was presumably the game.

How Power Grabs in the South Erased Reforms After Reconstruction: “The main things that southern legislatures did in order to make sure that Republicans or African Americans didn’t get into power is to make sure they didn’t vote,” Hahn says. “All this stuff has been part of American politics all along.”

BLACK AND TAN REPUBLICANS: After the 15th Amendment was passed in 1870 allowing most of the black males in the former Confederate states to vote, the Republican Party (also now known as the Grand Old Party or GOP) commanded the loyalty of an overwhelming majority of African Americas, prompting Frederick Douglass to remark that for them, “The Republican Party was the ship and all else was the sea.”

Many of the newly enfranchised Southern black men now formed “Black and Tan” clubs, which along with similar organizations like the Union League, helped to institutionally tie these voters to the Republican Party.

Black Republican votes were also driven by white terror. Beginning with the founding of the Ku Klux Klan in 1866 and escalating through the late 1860s and 1870s, Southern whites [these were Democrats, etc -- note the following persecution of GOP whites] used violence to intimidate black would-be voters which at first helped solidify their allegiance to the GOP. Thousands of black voters were murdered in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina. White terrorists also intimidated and ostracized Southern whites who supported the Republican Party. They harassed the children of white Republicans in schools and isolated the wives of prominent white Republicans in churches and social clubs. On many occasions direct violence, usually reserved for African American Republican voters, was used on white Party activists as well.

[Syne]

There's seemingly no awareness that their supposedly enlightened beliefs are all culturally constructed too, products of the very civilization that they are trying to destroy.

Yeah, you can't advocate for the things they do without an immense lack of self-awareness. I mean, black-clad thugs looting, rioting, and committing arson actually have the gall to call themselves anti-fascists. You can't get more reality defying and self-deluded than that.

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Do you think there was no fraud at all?

Yes..no fraud has turned up..and certainly no evidence the election was rigged in favor of Biden.

See how deluded or just completely kept in the dark he is?

[Leigha]

Our voting system is fine. The only embarrassment is that we elected a pathological liar for our president who is attacking the democratic process as fraudulent just because he lost the election. The sooner he and his tweets disappear from the news cycle the better for all of us.

Do you think there was no fraud at all?

Yes..no fraud has turned up..and certainly no evidence the election was rigged in favor of Biden.

Just so we're on the same page, I'm referring to any type of election fraud, not necessarily an elaborate Dr. Evil, widespread plot by the Democrats to rig the election in favor of Biden. (I don't believe that such a plot exists, to be honest.) I'm talking more on local levels, individual ballot handlers, and such. 

If not, that's fine. It could just mean you are a very trusting soul, MR.  

[Syne]

Dominion Voting Systems part of DHS CISA Council that disputed election fraud

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/MFNm18f17X8

https://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-p...81659.html

[Syne]

If you really pay attention to the legacy media, you can see how they went from "no evidence of election fraud" to "no evidence of widespread election fraud" to "no substantial evidence of election fraud" and now they're at "no merit to the evidence of election fraud". IOW, according to them, there was zero evidence of any fraud, then a little evidence, then more evidence that didn't amount to much, and now widespread and substantial evidence that supposedly has no merit.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. And these are the same people who called them "mostly peaceful protests" while standing in front of burning buildings.

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Yes..no fraud has turned up..and certainly no evidence the election was rigged in favor of Biden.

Then why are Democrats so afraid to have any real investigations?

[Magical Realist]

I'm talking more on local levels, individual ballot handlers, and such.

I think mistakes have been made here and there, and dead people on registers, but I wouldn't call that fraud. It's not like anyone planned it. And certainly not enough errors to effect the results of the election.

"WASHINGTON — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday that there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, defying President Donald Trump's ongoing efforts to reverse the results.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said in an interview with The Associated Press."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...p-n1249581