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#21
Leigha Offline
Looks a bit suspect. We are too far away to see hence the need for observers. Although, CNN basically announced tonight that it isn’t true that observers have been kept out. Hmm. I have no idea what to believe, anymore.

Edit to add - I think they should have a recount of all the mail in ballots with overseers of both parties. That is well within the rights of Biden or Trump. I just fear that some of these close counties aren’t being transparent.
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#22
Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 6, 2020 01:56 AM)Leigha Wrote: Looks a bit suspect. We are too far away to see hence the need for observers. Although, CNN basically announced tonight that it isn’t true that observers have been kept out. Hmm. I have no idea what to believe, anymore.

Edit to add - I think they should have a recount of all the mail in ballots with overseers of both parties. That is well within the rights of Biden or Trump. I just fear that some of these close counties aren’t being transparent.

Yikes, I was thinking small before, like few tampered votes and not an entire county. If what you say has transpired then the whole process is suspect or at least doomed to never appear again in any election.
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#23
Leigha Offline
(Nov 6, 2020 06:15 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Nov 6, 2020 01:56 AM)Leigha Wrote: Looks a bit suspect. We are too far away to see hence the need for observers. Although, CNN basically announced tonight that it isn’t true that observers have been kept out. Hmm. I have no idea what to believe, anymore.

Edit to add - I think they should have a recount of all the mail in ballots with overseers of both parties. That is well within the rights of Biden or Trump. I just fear that some of these close counties aren’t being transparent.

Yikes, I was thinking small before, like few tampered votes and not an entire county. If what you say has transpired then the whole process is suspect or at least doomed to never appear again in any election.

Yea, I’m just guessing of course and I solemnly swear that I’m not a conspiracy theorist. lol

It just seems odd that Biden is winning all of these states. Hopefully they’ll do a recount with monitors who can verify that the votes are legal.
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#24
Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote:It just seems odd that Biden is winning all of these states. 


Yes, one can almost detect an odor. Even if Biden is crowned, it'll be under a cloud of suspicion. Dems will deny any Hanky-panky but if at any time during Joe's reign it comes to light that shenanigans did take place, it might be the end of the Democratic Party for a long time, idk. Dems better get a damage control committee set up real soon, I think they're going to need it. 

These battlefield states as they are called, all seem to be going against the state & national trends that developed prior to mail-in voting counts. Raises an eyebrow that it's so one-sided. 

I guess you will have to live with whatever they finalize. Rest of the world is either laughing or shaking their collective heads.
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#25
confused2 Offline
(Nov 6, 2020 06:45 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:It just seems odd that Biden is winning all of these states. 


Yes, one can almost detect an odor. Even if Biden is crowned, it'll be under a cloud of suspicion. Dems will deny any Hanky-panky but if at any time during Joe's reign it comes to light that shenanigans did take place, it might be the end of the Democratic Party for a long time, idk. Dems better get a damage control committee set up real soon, I think they're going to need it. 

These battlefield states as they are called, all seem to be going against the state & national trends that developed prior to mail-in voting counts. Raises an eyebrow that it's so one-sided. 

I guess you will have to live with whatever they finalize. Rest of the world is either laughing or shaking their collective heads.

Detecting odors is what fake news is all about.
Trump advised republicans to vote in person and Biden advised democrats to vote by post. Fake or true?
 Trump advised republicans to vote in person because (from the start) he intended to undermine the democratic process by implying postal votes were either potentially or actually corrupt. Fake or true?
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#26
Zinjanthropos Offline
(Nov 7, 2020 03:34 AM)confused2 Wrote:  Trump advised republicans to vote in person because (from the start) he intended to undermine the democratic process by implying postal votes were either potentially or actually corrupt. Fake or true?

I think it will really get interesting after they crown a king. It’s going to make a great movie some day. 

Way more to come....stay tuned. Big Grin

Just announce a winner FFS
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#27
Leigha Offline
(Nov 7, 2020 03:34 AM)confused2 Wrote:
(Nov 6, 2020 06:45 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:It just seems odd that Biden is winning all of these states. 


Yes, one can almost detect an odor. Even if Biden is crowned, it'll be under a cloud of suspicion. Dems will deny any Hanky-panky but if at any time during Joe's reign it comes to light that shenanigans did take place, it might be the end of the Democratic Party for a long time, idk. Dems better get a damage control committee set up real soon, I think they're going to need it. 

These battlefield states as they are called, all seem to be going against the state & national trends that developed prior to mail-in voting counts. Raises an eyebrow that it's so one-sided. 

I guess you will have to live with whatever they finalize. Rest of the world is either laughing or shaking their collective heads.

Detecting odors is what fake news is all about.
Trump advised republicans to vote in person and Biden advised democrats to vote by post. Fake or true?
 Trump advised republicans to vote in person because (from the start) he intended to undermine the democratic process by implying postal votes were either potentially or actually corrupt. Fake or true?

Asking his supporters to vote in person isn't trying to undermine the democratic process. Trump felt that if his supporters voted by mail, their ballots might be tossed out or risk not arriving on time due to the sluggishness of the USPS. Mail in ballots have always been a thing, but you have to request one and offer a viable reason why. The number of mail in ballots for this election really overwhelmed the system, so that's what is taking so long. 

At this point, even Trump's aides are telling him that legal action might not be worth it, because Biden is so far ahead. I mean, are hundreds of thousands of votes across several states ...fraudulent? Some may be. But, Trump seems to think that a widespread orchestrated strategy by the Democratic party to ''steal'' the election has transpired. Eh, that seems far fetched.
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#28
Syne Offline
(Nov 7, 2020 04:25 AM)Leigha Wrote:
(Nov 7, 2020 03:34 AM)confused2 Wrote: Detecting odors is what fake news is all about.
Trump advised republicans to vote in person and Biden advised democrats to vote by post. Fake or true?
 Trump advised republicans to vote in person because (from the start) he intended to undermine the democratic process by implying postal votes were either potentially or actually corrupt. Fake or true?

Asking his supporters to vote in person isn't trying to undermine the democratic process. Trump felt that if his supporters voted by mail, their ballots might be tossed out or risk not arriving on time due to the sluggishness of the USPS. Mail in ballots have always been a thing, but you have to request one and offer a viable reason why. The number of mail in ballots for this election really overwhelmed the system, so that's what is taking so long. 

At this point, even Trump's aides are telling him that legal action might not be worth it, because Biden is so far ahead. I mean, are hundreds of thousands of votes across several states ...fraudulent? Some may be. But, Trump seems to think that a widespread orchestrated strategy by the Democratic party to ''steal'' the election has transpired. Eh, that seems far fetched.

Yeah, advising your supporters to vote by the most reliable and secure method is just being responsible and respectful of their vote. Democrats asking their voters to vote en masse without first doing tests of security, reliability, and USPS capacity just shows their disrespect for their own voters...or their intent to game that inherent insecurity. Only after they decided to push mass vote-by-mail did they go "oh yeah, the USPS needs a lot more funding".

Mail-in voting has already proven, in actual voter fraud charges and small tests, to be unreliable, at best. At worst, it disenfranchises an untold number of voters.

But again, it doesn't have to be "a widespread orchestrated strategy" for many local Democrats, especially working polling places or counting, to individually take it upon themselves to trash or add ballots. Some might even think that their unprecedented level of hate for Trump would actually make that much more likely than not. I mean, if you really think he's a white supremacist Hitler, wouldn't you do whatever you could to get him out, by absolutely any means? Hate, and the legacy media lies, is the only coordination needed.
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#30
Syne Offline
The electoral college doesn't vote until Dec 14, so there's still time to sort it out.
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