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How Scientists Dream of Killing Hurricanes

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Leigha Offline
Scientists have been thinking for quite some time, about how to stop storms as they're happening. After watching Hurricane Dorian wreak havoc in the Bahamas, and sitting on pins and needles worried about where it might strike next on the southeast coast, it would be quite amazing if scientists could find ways to modify nature, and its storms. Could there be a way to control or lessen a hurricane's strength, after it begins? 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/envir...urricanes/
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C C Offline
Unfortunately, weather control has historically been the domain of super evil-doers and notorious organizations. "Nice" scientists just don't have a knack for it, as that past account of fatal flaws points out. The bad-boy wonks wow the hippie chicks with their destructive technological prowess until some athletic, toxic masculinity dinosaur on the other side -- who's also authentically suave and debonair -- comes along and severely humiliates the misbehavin' nerds with an atomic wedgie.

10 Villains Who Used Bad Weather as a Weapon
https://io9.gizmodo.com/10-villains-who-...on-5815423

Our Man Flint: Spy extraordinaire Derek Flint (James Coburn) is an ex-agent of Z.O.W.I.E. (Zonal Organization for World Intelligence and Espionage) who is brought out of retirement to deal with the threat of Galaxy, a worldwide organization led by a trio of mad scientists: Doctor Krupov (Rhys Williams), Doctor Wu (Peter Brocco), and Doctor Schneider (Benson Fong). Impatient that the world's governments will never improve, the scientists demand that all nations capitulate to Galaxy. To enforce their demands, they initiate earthquakes, volcanoes, storms and other natural disasters with their climate-control apparatus, for the only purpose to bring the nations to give up weapons and nuclear energy.
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stryder Offline
The main problem with the concept of science controlling the weather is the entire nature of our near closed system of weather related entropy and the Butterfly effect. For instance if one country decides they can change a weather front to remove a hurricane from battering their coast, they could inadvertently turn that system on the path of another neighbouring country or cause droughts and consequently famines from those weather systems not feeding the weather systems that those other countries rely upon.

In essence it would weaponise weather even if by accident.

To be honest though I see our ever change and more hostile environment being a sign of how we need to change. For instance there will always be the worries that our planet is doom due to our governments ignorance/hubris, however we can't advert the cataclysm of our own progress, instead we have to concentrate on learning how to evolve to the ever changing situations. Doing so would mean we would prosper at survival in the harshest of environments, because doing so means we can greet every future challenge with ease. (Think of it like an educative curvature, to try to do something of extreme magnitudes without first knowing the basics something will prove not just stressful but infeasible)
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Leigha Offline
(Sep 4, 2019 05:54 AM)C C Wrote: Unfortunately, weather control has historically been the domain of super evil-doers and notorious organizations. "Nice" scientists just don't have a knack for it, as that past account of fatal flaws points out. The bad-boy wonks wow the hippie chicks with their destructive technological prowess until some athletic, toxic masculinity dinosaur on the other side -- who's also authentically suave and debonair -- comes along and severely humiliates the misbehavin' nerds with an atomic wedgie.

10 Villains Who Used Bad Weather as a Weapon
https://io9.gizmodo.com/10-villains-who-...on-5815423

Our Man Flint: Spy extraordinaire Derek Flint (James Coburn) is an ex-agent of Z.O.W.I.E. (Zonal Organization for World Intelligence and Espionage) who is brought out of retirement to deal with the threat of Galaxy, a worldwide organization led by a trio of mad scientists: Doctor Krupov (Rhys Williams), Doctor Wu (Peter Brocco), and Doctor Schneider (Benson Fong). Impatient that the world's governments will never improve, the scientists demand that all nations capitulate to Galaxy. To enforce their demands, they initiate earthquakes, volcanoes, storms and other natural disasters with their climate-control apparatus, for the only purpose to bring the nations to give up weapons and nuclear energy.
lol It's a shame that we (humans) can't be trusted...
Simon Bar Sinister...  Big Grin
(Sep 4, 2019 09:59 AM)stryder Wrote: The main problem with the concept of science controlling the weather is the entire nature of our near closed system of weather related entropy and the Butterfly effect.  For instance if one country decides they can change a weather front to remove a hurricane from battering their coast, they could inadvertently turn that system on the path of another neighbouring country or cause droughts and consequently famines from those weather systems not feeding the weather systems that those other countries rely upon.

In essence it would weaponise weather even if by accident.

To be honest though I see our ever change and more hostile environment being a sign of how we need to change.  For instance there will always be the worries that our planet is doom due to our governments ignorance/hubris, however we can't advert the cataclysm of our own progress, instead we have to concentrate on learning how to evolve to the ever changing situations.  Doing so would mean we would prosper at survival in the harshest of environments, because doing so means we can greet every future challenge with ease.  (Think of it like an educative curvature, to try to do something of extreme magnitudes without first knowing the basics something will prove not just stressful but infeasible)
I like how you worded that, stryder - that our hostile and changing environment is a sign that we need to change. Good point.

Like CC had pointed out, I hadn't really considered that scientists (the bad ones) would seek to create weapons from weather. But, how will the Bahamas truly recover from such devastation? I feel like most of the time, all we do is react to the aftermath of horrific storms. We're coming up with proactive ways to combat global warming, but ...while I try to be cautiously optimistic, I can't help but think these storms are going to start becoming the norm, rather than the exception.  Confused
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