Random thoughts/comments

[Syne]

What if Trump could prove a mail-in ballot can be rigged? If Trump was smart then he already has it. Perhaps in anticipation of the situation that exists now, Trump's camp has done it or can show how and it's all on video. Would Biden then have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that no rigging can take place? One tainted vote and the entire mail-in process is suspect and by rights should go down in flames IMHO. I think Donald may have something up his sleeve, seems pretty confident about voter fraud, not like it doesn't happen.

I don't know how it works so maybe the process is beyond reproach but I somehow doubt that, people are pretty ingenious. Maybe you've been collecting social security checks for a registered Democrat mother who's dead and buried in your basement and you need to keep the facade going.... heheheh

They wouldn't be able to invalidate the whole process of mail-in voting. They might be able to preempt the next election using it, by passing legislation, but the votes already cast can't be thrown out in bulk. They can only be invalidated individually, due to either evidence of fraud, error, or failure to be verified...like mismatching signatures. There is plenty of evidence of voter fraud and voter error, but no one really knows how widespread it may be.

There are plenty of dead people, and even illegal aliens in some cases, on the voter rolls. And Democrats usually pitch a fit if anyone tries to purge the voter rolls.

[Zinjanthropos]

Although voter fraud at your standard polling station happens, it's generally accepted because parties have their scrutineers present and if it's missed then shame on you. Mail-in is new enough that it probably should be under much tighter scrutiny/examination. No doubt some mail-in votes are fraudulent and the number may never be known. If all parties agreed to it then that's the way it is. Also stands to reason then that no election is without fraud. I'll reiterate....why can't a democracy run a fair election?

[Leigha]

Why couldn’t there be a hard deadline of Nov 3rd? That includes getting in your mail in ballot. If you miss it, oh well. Suppose ballots come in next Monday? It’s hard to believe that this is the US voting system in 2020.

[Zinjanthropos]

Why couldn’t there be a hard deadline of Nov 3rd? That includes getting in your mail in ballot. If you miss it, oh well. Suppose ballots come in next Monday? It’s hard to believe that this is the US voting system in 2020.

No kidding . Kudos to Biden. Joe used it to his advantage....was it strategy? Should a candidate be allowed to use a system of voting as an advantage? His followers know how to follow instructions, make an X, lick an envelope* and drop it in the mailbox. Ballot not sitting on the kitchen counter, in the glove box or tossed, used as a note pad or just too demanding to open and read contents. You know, city folk vs country folk...


*I'd include affording or licking a postage stamp but not sure if voters had to.

[Secular Sanity]

That's not a very nice way to treat someone who is just doing their best to help others adjust to their new situation.

Yeah, your right. From the look of things, I might need that recipe.

Sorry, C2.

[Syne]

Why couldn’t there be a hard deadline of Nov 3rd? That includes getting in your mail in ballot. If you miss it, oh well. Suppose ballots come in next Monday? It’s hard to believe that this is the US voting system in 2020.

There should be, but instead of passing bipartisan legislation to ensure that, Democrats spun conspiracy theories about Trump shutting down the USPS instead of simply telling people to send in their ballots early enough.

[Leigha]

I predict only Party Members will be allowed to buy toilet paper so best to either join the party or stock up while you can.

Comrade Syne is reminded that the flag is a symbol of the Party.

Comrade Leigha should carry her identity papers at all times. At the end of the month Leigha will meet a stranger dressed in blue. Remember the number on their uniform - it will be important in the future.

This new world order sounds ominous. 

Why couldn’t there be a hard deadline of Nov 3rd? That includes getting in your mail in ballot. If you miss it, oh well. Suppose ballots come in next Monday? It’s hard to believe that this is the US voting system in 2020.

There should be, but instead of passing bipartisan legislation to ensure that, Democrats spun conspiracy theories about Trump shutting down the USPS instead of simply telling people to send in their ballots early enough.

''Telling people'' isn't enough, though. There really should have been stricter guidelines in place, so without question, people knew that the deadline to mail their ballots in would've been say October 10th, so the USPS would have plenty of time to get the ballots delivered in time.

I don't think that there was/is a widespread strategy by the Democrats to ''steal'' the election, but there could be some voter fraud at the county levels here and there. Since this is a tight election, that ''here and there'' might actually matter, though.

[Syne]

''Telling people'' isn't enough, though. There really should have been stricter guidelines in place, so without question, people knew that the deadline to mail their ballots in would've been say October 10th, so the USPS would have plenty of time to get the ballots delivered in time.

I agree. Like I said, there should have been bipartisan legislation to set a clear cutoff for mailing a ballot. But Democrats thought they could make more electoral hay from all the fake doom about Trump stealing, impeding, or ignoring the election results. When you mail a ballot, the postmark should be BEFORE Nov 3rd.

I don't think that there was/is a widespread strategy by the Democrats to ''steal'' the election, but there could be some voter fraud at the county levels here and there. Since this is a tight election, that ''here and there'' might actually matter, though.

Yeah, there's never any reason to posit a conspiracy where simple human nature will suffice. Democrats in general are much more apt to believe that the ends justifies the means, and there are Democrats involved in local vote counting. Like this guy: https://www.scivillage.com/thread-9302-p...l#pid38922

Individuals can act, on their own but with the same motive as many others, to have a coordinated effect, even without any actual explicit coordination between them. No conspiracy. Just individuals acting from their own motives, which often are not virtuous.

[Leigha]

Is it me, or has Biden's delivery really improved since he finished campaigning?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...otes-count

[Syne]

Is it me, or has Biden's delivery really improved since he finished campaigning?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...otes-count

Easy to hold it together for one or two brief statements a day read, off a teleprompter, and no questions or having to think on his feet.