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#31
(May 12, 2019 12:55 AM)confused2 Wrote: In the UK we have (temporarily) fallen under the influence of a 16-year-old (Greta Thunberg).   At her age she isn't worried about the value of her pension fund or economic growth figures for the last quarter. At best economists speak of 'sustainable growth' - why 'growth'? I live in a very small house (which was also very cheap)  and my main concern is that the the lavender  hasn't survived the winter so I need to get some more so the bees will come to visit us.  The freebees will more than compensate for the cost of the lavender.  My cup runneth over.

Swedin

population control
long term conservative financial management
restricted living areas preventing mass sudden slums being created
lack of ability for rough sleeping criminals to survive over night and inflict crime on the society...
universal health care
universal education

many things they benefit from


(paraphrasing subjective average public interpretation)
using the American celebrity greed & jealously monster to look at her through serves no real productive benefit.
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#32
Recently I read 'Europe' would need 2.8 planets for the present level of consumption to be sustainable. Assume that to be true there are 2.8 times more people in Europe than one planet can support.
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#33
She did say random, right?

Well, if it was me, this would be an area where I’d fight fire with fire. I’d use the book of Jonah.

I could have a field day with that one.  Wink

Quote:And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, this is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonah the prophet.

Whales swallow what? Plankton.

Quote:And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd.

But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.

And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.

And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death.

Then said the LORD, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night:

And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more then sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

The Greenhouse Effect Explained

I know-I know. I better cut back on the coffee.  Big Grin
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#34
(May 12, 2019 01:00 PM)confused2 Wrote: Recently I read 'Europe' would need 2.8 planets for the present level of consumption to be sustainable. Assume that to be true there are 2.8 times more people in Europe than one planet can support.

What utter nonsense. We are innovating ways to produce more food and energy every day.
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#35
Yea, that seems a little paranoid. I'm concerned with our sustainability, too, but seems like there is a lot of unnecessary paranoia out there. Climate change and preserving resources isn't something that is solely the government's responsibility, either. We can all do our part, and I'm not talking about tossing a few plastic items into a bag for the recycling truck to pick up, weekly. Our wastefulness as a country, in terms of food and water, can be easily mitigated if we all did our part.
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#36
Syne Wrote:What utter nonsense. We are innovating ways to produce more food and energy every day.
We are also making more Europeans every day. Would you agree that a population that increases without limit is 'unsustainable'? One route to 'sustainability' is to give women access to birth control. Give women education and a value that is more than just as 'producers of babies' and you have a rather belated route to 'sustainability'. The other route? Well?
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#37
(May 12, 2019 10:20 PM)confused2 Wrote:
Syne Wrote:What utter nonsense. We are innovating ways to produce more food and energy every day.
We are also making more Europeans every day. Would you agree that a population that increases without limit is 'unsustainable'? One route to 'sustainability' is to give women access to birth control. Give women education and a value that is more than just as 'producers of babies' and you have a rather belated route to 'sustainability'. The other route? Well?

The birthrates in most European countries have been on the decline.

Highest fertility rates in Europe still below ‘replenishment level’

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IOW, the population isn't "increasing without limit".
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#38
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_%28name%29

Muhammad was the most popular baby boys' name in four regions of England and Wales, including in London and the West Midlands, according to 2013 official statistics.[5] It is also sometimes reported that Muhammad is the most popular boy’s name in all of Britain, however this is based on combining multiple spelling variations such as Mohammed, but not combining spelling variants of other popular British names such as Ollie and Olly.[6]
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#39
That's an immigration problem, not a population growth problem.
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