College students and KKK agree on segregation

[confused2]

Bump.
The OP seems to capture a "Where next for America?". I'd very much like to see more input on this thread.

[Syne]

Where next? Quit letting the regressive left teach our children.

[C C]

Bump. The OP seems to capture a "Where next for America?". I'd very much like to see more input on this thread.

Could "safe space" sequestering and discrimination under the guise of "protection from either bullying or obnoxious population groups" have potential market value? Can it be commercialized in business, retail, and food slash entertainment establishments by offering "out-of-danger" niches for possible victims, secure from intrusion by whatever parties they consider annoying? Is there any historical opportunism grounded in subcultural and ethnic identities to even remotely compare to such potential trends in a marketed social partitioning (but not necessarily in the physical body proximity sense)?[1]

During its genesis days, recorded music was initially so unintegrated that immigrants were catered to in an isolated way, with African-Americans acquiring their own category like that late.[2]

Many white people supposedly knew little about such alternative music due to the segregated retail outlets for records.[3] (Ironically, even by the 1950s UK youngsters aspiring someday to form their own bands were far more familiar with black blues artists than white youth in America.)

The "race" adjective of such "race label" records was actually favored by the black community back then.[4]

In contrast to widespread non-awareness of _X_ ethnic music among whites, black listeners even tuned in to the Grand Ole Opry in early days, and there was creative reciprocation between blues and (white) country artists.[5]

The 1950s and early 1960s arguably revived racial lines in music again[6], after that had somewhat broken down. In part due to the skyrocketing popularity of Rock and Roll. With the emergence of that round finally making it especially uncool for a (both a hip and non-hip) black person to be listening to certain kinds of honky music. (Get some safe space from that cracker twanging!) And vice versa with the older whites wanting a buffer between them and ###### music.

Bob Dylan: They played this type of music that was black and white. Extremely incendiary. Your clothes could catch fire. When I first heard Chuck Berry, I didn’t consider that he was black. I thought he was a hillbilly. Little did I know, he was a great poet, too. And there must have been some elitist power that had to get rid of all these guys, to strike down rock ’n’ roll for what it was and what it represented — not least of all being a black-and-white thing.

Do you mean it’s musical race-mixing and that’s what made it dangerous?

Racial prejudice has been around awhile, so, yeah. And that was extremely threatening for the city fathers, I would think. When they finally recognized what it was, they had to dismantle it, which they did, starting with payola scandals. The black element was turned into soul music, and the white element was turned into English pop. They separated it […] Well, it was apart of my DNA, so it never disappeared from me. I just incorporated it into other aspects of what I was doing. Bob Dylan Lays Down What Really Killed Rock ’n’ Roll

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[1] Race records made sense for white record labels, which had been losing market share with the introduction of radio. But they made financial sense for another reason: It was easier to exploit and underpay black artists than white ones. Many of their songs had never been published, and labels snagged recording rights along with the recordings. Many artists were put on records that gave them pseudonyms or left out their names entirely, which meant they weren’t able to parlay their recording careers into successful performing careers. --How 'Race Records' Turned Black Music Into Big Business

[2] Then, in 1920, a black composer named Perry Bradford went to Okeh records to try to convince them to record a black artist. At the time, the label had an entire division of “foreign” records in languages like Norwegian and Yiddish that were recorded for immigrant communities, and Bradford convinced the label to take a chance on recording a black singer for the line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okeh_Records

[3] A black person might own a shelf full of records by groundbreaking artists like Ma Rainey, Jelly Roll Morton or Duke Ellington, all of whom became best-selling artists on so-called “race records.” But a white person might have no idea who any of those artists were, though they had sold thousands of copies. That’s because race records were sold in stores and advertised in publications that catered to African-Americans --How 'Race Records' Turned Black Music Into Big Business

[4] In hindsight the term race record may seem derogatory, but in the early 20th century the African-American press routinely used the term the Race to refer to African Americans as a whole and race man or race woman to refer to an African-American individual who showed pride in and support for African-American people and culture.

[5] "There has always been a black presence in country music, but that history has been largely invisible," said Wolfe, who is white and has written more than 20 books on everything from country music to the life and times of black blues guitarist Huddie "Leadbelly" Ledbetter. http://old.post-gazette.com/magazine/200...untry2.asp

[6] In the 1920s through the '50s, there was a great interchange between black and white musicians. Chuck Berry remembers being influenced by Hank Williams. But in the '60s, the music became pigeonholed, separated along racial lines. Blues became blues and country became country. http://old.post-gazette.com/magazine/200...untry2.asp

[confused2]

Where next? Quit letting the regressive left teach our children.

To a fair extent teachers are our (or your) society, I claim no qualification in this matter. The other strong influences on young people will be religion (give me a boy until he's seven and I'll show you a catholic for life) - the culture of one's own street. Personally I am very different from the culture of the street I grew up in - I may over or under estimate the importance of local street culture on an adult. And the Internet. As this forum is almost my sole interaction with the Internet I have no way to know gauge effect it might have.Over and above morality there is the law of the land - if there is a serious chance of being caught and going to prison for it (whatever it may be) then this will (think) influence choices.
When I was you teaching was considered to be a vocation ( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vocation ). If a teacher were unable to control a class of children it would be accepted as sell-evident that there was a mismatch between their vocation and their actual abilities.

[Leigha]

lol Is this the new PC tag for segregation? ''Safe space?''

You go sit over there, so you can feel safe (er, so others can feel safe since you'll be out of the way)

The new racism, ah, but if the left is behind it, it's not racism. /sarcasm

[Syne]

The left has always been the driving force behind racism. Defending slavery, starting the KKK and instituting Jim Crow, welfare that has destroying minority families, highly segregated cities, and the highest income disparities. Just look at what they say when disadvantaged kids are going to be brought to their upper class schools or when Trump threatens to send illegal immigrants to their "sanctuary cities" that are supposedly designed for exactly that.