Somebody asked about Elon's long anticipated public presentation on the Starship/Super Heavy progress (originally anticipated for June 20) and Elon said:
"Will do Starship presentation a few weeks after Hopper hovers, so prob late July. If that timing works, free LJ chips for all present!"
The more serious news is that Elon wants the hops to happen "a few weeks" before his presentation which he anticipates to be in late July, so that suggests... around now?
Of course this is probably Elon-time. (Proves relativity is true and time is all relative.)
YazataJul 10, 2019 07:38 PM (This post was last modified: Jul 10, 2019 08:05 PM by Yazata.)
Regarding SN6, the latest Raptor to be prowling McGregor...
A resident space-nut (they are the world's eyes and ears) heard what sounded like Raptor running for about 80 seconds. (Rumors say that they aren't going for max duration, but are currently evaluating different fuel mixtures in the thing.)
Of particular interest are the initial flight parameters:
"5. Operating Area: "Operating Area" means a cylindrical region with a radius of 2270 meters from the launch point.
8. Altitude: SpaceX may operate the Starship Hopper vehicle to an altitude that does not exceed 25 meters AGL, in accordance with its application."
We knew that the first hops were projected to be no higher than the Hopper is tall. But 25 meters is an awfully low lid if the plan is to go higher later. (25 meters is about 2 1/2 times the thing's height.)
So I'm speculating that if all goes well, there will need to be a subsequent application to raise the lid.
C CJul 11, 2019 05:37 AM (This post was last modified: Jul 11, 2019 08:28 PM by C C.
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(Jul 10, 2019 07:38 PM)Yazata Wrote: Regarding SN6, the latest Raptor to be prowling McGregor...
A resident space-nut (they are the world's eyes and ears) heard what sounded like Raptor running for about 80 seconds. (Rumors say that they aren't going for max duration, but are currently evaluating different fuel mixtures in the thing.)
Of particular interest are the initial flight parameters:
"5. Operating Area: "Operating Area" means a cylindrical region with a radius of 2270 meters from the launch point.
8. Altitude: SpaceX may operate the Starship Hopper vehicle to an altitude that does not exceed 25 meters AGL, in accordance with its application."
We knew that the first hops were projected to be no higher than the Hopper is tall. But 25 meters is an awfully low lid if the plan is to go higher later. (25 meters is about 2 1/2 times the thing's height.)
So I'm speculating that if all goes well, there will need to be a subsequent application to raise the lid.
It's about time the herbivores of the region got over their placidity that surely set in from this long drought of no carnivorous raptor. Wouldn't want them to get as tame for the carving table as isolated island species.
YazataJul 11, 2019 04:25 PM (This post was last modified: Jul 11, 2019 07:08 PM by Yazata.)
Big events:
Raptor SN6 has been packed up and shipped from McGregor to Boca Chica, where it has arrived, has been photographed and is being fitted to the Hopper as we speak. Speculation is that there will be a static fire, then the first untethered flight might be as early as next week.
Look at the crazy complexity of the Raptor engine in the photo in the last tweet. Wires and conduits everywhere! (Reminds me of my hair.)
Live stream here (from Labpadre) This and the following stream may conclude soon, since Labpadre didn't know all this was going to happen today and has already scheduled business he has to attend to.
This is all the stuff they never showed you in all those old 1950's Sci-fi movies. Like crews of technicians installing rocket engines in their spaceships.
Still no NOTAMs announcing Temporary Flight Restrictions issued by the FAA. Unclear about road closures. Nothing officially announced, but local resident Labpadre says he hears that something is anticipated on July 17 (next Wednesday).
Liquified gas tankers observed arriving, some of it liquid methane.
YazataJul 12, 2019 08:23 PM (This post was last modified: Jul 12, 2019 09:24 PM by Yazata.)
Lots of news.
An FAA NOTAM announcing Temporary Flight Restrictions over Boca Chica has just been posted. Effective dates are Monday July 15 through Wednesday July 17.
"Raptor engine mounted on Starhopper. Aiming for hover test Tues."
"~20m up & sideways for first flight. Mk1 Starship hopefully 20 km up in a few months."
Somebody asked how low the Raptor can be throttled, throwing out 10%. Tim, the Everyday Astronaut said that it can't throttle lower than 40%. Elon says:
"About right, but dangerously chuggy & risking bad things at 40%. We'll keep it above 50% for this flight."
And here's some aerial video (from a drone?) of the Cocoa FL site where SpaceX is constructing their much shinier alternative Starship prototype. Presumably this one will be transported (not sure how) to nearby Cape Canaveral and launched from there.
People in the aerospace industry are exclaiming about how SpaceX resembles old World War II era aircraft companies able to churn out prototypes very quickly. Today it takes the legacy companies with their bloated bureaucracies, government oversight and hordes of subcontractors literally decades to design new aircraft that aren't remotely as revolutionary as Elon's Starship. Designing a new aircraft the conventional way has been likened to herding cats.
(Jul 13, 2019 04:07 AM)C C Wrote: Holy sacrificial fire, high enough to finally be a mild spectacle for the natives.
Not just the natives. Many thousands of people, all over the world, are watching this. (NASA and the entire aerospace industry are watching too.) Not only is it the belated appearance of an honest-to-God 1950's-style Sci-Fi spaceship (that promises to fly humans to the Moon and Mars), but Elon and SpaceX are allowing people like BCG unprecedented access to record each step in close-up detail. There's never been anything like this before.
YazataJul 15, 2019 07:36 AM (This post was last modified: Jul 15, 2019 07:49 AM by Yazata.)
Today the road to Boca Chica was closed in the afternoon. (Photo of road block from LabPadre's live-feed)
Then the road reopened and a bunch of vehicles went down to the pad and everyone figured things were over for the day. But... the pad cleared out again, the hard checkpoint went back up and pressurization and tanking texts were underway after the sun went down. (Extraordinary photo from Labpadre's live-stream)
Talk is that there will be a static fire of the engine tomorrow in preparation for the Steampunk Spaceship's free-flight on Tuesday.
The place to see very cool live views of events as they happen is LabPadre's youtube channel here:
YazataJul 16, 2019 04:04 AM (This post was last modified: Jul 16, 2019 04:53 AM by Yazata.)
Here's a screen-shot of today's big event from LabPadre's live-stream. (Essential viewing for anyone interested in this.)
It's reportedly a pre-burner test, in which they fire up what are in effect the little jet engines (turbo pumps) that feed their fuel-rich and oxidizer-rich exhausts into the main combustion chamber which wasn't lit today. One of the difficult things with a rocket engine is that the fuel and oxidizer have to be forced into the engine's combustion chamber with more pressure than the rocket engine chamber-pressure that produces the rocket thrust. That's (literally) hard and many of the complexities in rocket engine design result from that.
Apparently that static test fire might come tomorrow.
So... the untethered free-flight probably won't be Tuesday. It might have slipped to Wednesday (hopefully).