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Magical Realist
Oct 30, 2018 11:41 PM
(Oct 30, 2018 11:07 PM)Leigha Wrote: (Oct 30, 2018 10:25 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:And weak minded people often take challenges to their opinions as ad hominems.
Another ad hom. Now we're weak minded people.
Quote:But go right ahead playing the victim. I'm sure it has served you well in life.
Another ad hom. Now we're playing the victim.
It never ends. He makes everything personal.
People who try to hurt others, are usually hurting inside. They think they'll feel better by putting others down, but it usually only exacerbates their problems.
Your ghost threads are way more fun
Syne shows no sign of even knowing how to have a calm and mature conversation. Every thread he visits is reduced to arguing and bickering about this and that triviality, to the point that he ends up attacking the poster and smearing their reputation for his own sick enjoyment. Best policy is just to avoid him altogether. That's what most posters here have learned to do.
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Syne
Oct 31, 2018 01:33 AM
Facts central to an issue are not trivialities. If people had the intellectual honesty to just answer simple questions and not just ignore arguments they cannot refute, they wouldn't have any reason to get defensive and whine about posting style...which is the real triviality.
Yeah, MR, you're doing a great job ignoring me.
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confused2
Oct 31, 2018 02:05 AM
I haven't followed the Ford/Kavanaugh case closely. However..
Personally I think Ford is telling the truth.
Bad men do bad things. Because males are generally stronger than females an excess proportion of those bad things are going to happen to females.
I have bad (female related) things in my past. In my case they were people who (I think) cared about me and about whom I cared, Under no circumstances would I offer "I have forgotten" as a defence.
If Ford was caught up in a fraternity challenge or game - which is very 'forgettable' - Kavanaugh could genuinely not remember the event, her name or her face - but that doesn't mean Ford is lying.
So both can be telling the truth.
America seems to be getting what America has voted for.
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Leigha
Oct 31, 2018 02:38 AM
(Oct 31, 2018 02:05 AM)confused2 Wrote: I haven't followed the Ford/Kavanaugh case closely. However..
Personally I think Ford is telling the truth.
Bad men do bad things. Because males are generally stronger than females an excess proportion of those bad things are going to happen to females.
I have bad (female related) things in my past. In my case they were people who (I think) cared about me and about whom I cared, Under no circumstances would I offer "I have forgotten" as a defence.
If Ford was caught up in a fraternity challenge or game - which is very 'forgettable' - Kavanaugh could genuinely not remember the event, her name or her face - but that doesn't mean Ford is lying.
So both can be telling the truth.
America seems to be getting what America has voted for.
Both can be telling the truth. How fascinating. Your comment is a refreshing perspective.
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Syne
Oct 31, 2018 05:08 AM
(Oct 31, 2018 02:05 AM)confused2 Wrote: I haven't followed the Ford/Kavanaugh case closely. However..
Personally I think Ford is telling the truth. A clearer statement of irresponsible opinion could probably not be uttered.
Quote:Bad men do bad things. Because males are generally stronger than females an excess proportion of those bad things are going to happen to females.
Such a broad generality use against a specific person is sexism. It ignores the individual facts in favor of group stereotype.
Quote:If Ford was caught up in a fraternity challenge or game - which is very 'forgettable' - Kavanaugh could genuinely not remember the event, her name or her face - but that doesn't mean Ford is lying.
So both can be telling the truth.
She could have also been drunk, not remember who it was (considering she also doesn't recall where it was, whose house, how she got there or left, etc.), and only later attached the name of Kavanaugh...even coming to believe he were the true attacker. The human mind is very adept at filling in blanks with any available info.
That no one Ford claims was at said party remembers it ever happening, including her life-long friend saying she's never met Kavanaugh at all, weighs heavily in favor of one person's memory being faulty rather than those of four people.
So yes, they could both be telling the truth as they believe it, but the majority memory takes precedent over one person's memory.
Quote:America seems to be getting what America has voted for.
Yes, we have a booming economy, lowest unemployment in ages (and ever for blacks, Hispanics, and Asians), etc..
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Secular Sanity
Oct 31, 2018 08:13 PM
(Oct 31, 2018 02:38 AM)Leigha Wrote: Both can be telling the truth. How fascinating.
I think that happens a lot.
A couple of years ago, I attended a social gathering with my girlfriend. I ran into a couple of guys that I grew up with. One was always sweet, the other, not so much. The other one came up to me and told me he had always had a crush on me. Really? I didn’t believe him because he was never nice to me.
When we were teenagers, I was swimming at the river with a friend of mine. Her dog got caught in an undercurrent. We asked him to help us get him out. He said he would if my friend would perform a sexual favor for him. I thought she was just bluffing to get her dog out, but to my surprise, she followed through with it. I didn’t stick around.
He didn’t live too far from me. This one time, his father was out of town and he had a party. One of his friends, who I thought was nice, called and invited me and my girlfriend. We showed up and drank a couple of beers. He went into his bedroom and kept calling for me. He said that he just wanted to tell me something in private. When I went in there, he was on his bed and under the covers. He was drunk. He kept patting the edge of the bed wanting me to sit next to him. He kept saying that he just wanted to tell me something. Well, I did, and then he grabbed my hand and pushed it on his (you know). He was completely naked. I didn’t stick around and after that happened, I avoided him like the plague.
We became adults. Both of us married and had children. He became pretty successful and extremely arrogant. I would run into him occasionally at football games. He was always polite, though, but when I ran into him a couple of years ago, he told me that he was on the prowl for his third wife. Imagine that. He told me that he had always liked me and asked why I didn’t like him. I reminded him of those two incidences. He said that he didn’t remember either one of them and I believed him. I think he was telling the truth simply because we all have the tendency to recall the past in a self-serving manner.
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Syne
Sep 12, 2019 02:31 AM
Video Shows Christine Blasey Ford's Attorney Saying Kavanaugh Testimony Was Politically Motivated
A video circulating on social media shows Christine Blasey Ford's attorney telling attendees at a feminist conference that her client's testimony against now-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was a politically motivated move to protect Roe v. Wade.
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The self-proclaimed "women's rights and social justice activist" continued: "We were going to have a conservative [justice] ... Elections have consequences, but he will always have an asterisk next to his name. When he takes a scalpel to Roe v. Wade, we will know who he is, we know his character, and we know what motivates him, and that is important; it is important that we know, and that is part of what motivated Christine."
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Leigha
Sep 12, 2019 03:26 AM
(This post was last modified: Sep 12, 2019 03:28 AM by Leigha.)
But, that ^ doesn't mean that she was lying, does it? It sounds like what motivated her to come forward was her concern over Roe v Wade, with Kavanaugh being a conservative judge.
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Syne
Sep 12, 2019 03:41 AM
(This post was last modified: Sep 12, 2019 03:42 AM by Syne.)
It casts doubt on the motive for an already completely unverified and often outright refuted story.
Besides, what does sexual assault have to do with Roe v. Wade...except for a rape exemption Democrats always argue for?
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Leigha
Sep 12, 2019 04:03 AM
From an objective view, it could be that she simply repressed it for years, but seeing that Kavanaugh might be in a position of compromising Roe v Wade, it made her act. Just guessing, we may never know.
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