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Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor’s Wife

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Syne Offline
(Aug 26, 2018 03:13 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: You know how people are always saying that 'white male privilege' is a myth? All you really have to do is ask yourself if you’ve ever thought "I’m glad I’m not black" or "I’m glad I’m not a woman".
Neither has ever crossed my mind. Why, do you wish you were a man? O_o
(Aug 26, 2018 03:53 PM)confused2 Wrote: Let's try:-
"Are you ashamed of the way nothing other than being born a white male has automatically given you wealth and power that most humans can only dream of?".
It hasn't. I have no more wealth or power than any other race or gender who has worked just as hard. Maybe I don't know the secret handshake.
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Aug 26, 2018 06:57 PM)Syne Wrote: Neither has ever crossed my mind. Why, do you wish you were a man? O_o

Sometimes, like when I have to pee out in the woods. Just day before yesterday, I didn’t notice how many spiders were on the ground until I was midstream. Not a good day to be a girl. There were hundreds of them and they started crawling on my shoes, and then to top it off, everyone came running over because they thought I was getting murdered. I’d rather be a man when I’m in dangerous areas, too. Last week, I drove by two guys that were shot and killed and then their car was lit on fire.

Something strange is happening here lately. I’ve been noticing beautiful young girls and guys all coming from Spain. They look like they have plenty of money. Almost like they’re coming out here on some great backpacking/weed trimming adventure or something. Maybe they didn’t notice all the missing person posters around town.
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Syne Offline
(Aug 26, 2018 07:55 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Aug 26, 2018 06:57 PM)Syne Wrote: Neither has ever crossed my mind. Why, do you wish you were a man? O_o

Sometimes, like when I have to pee out in the woods.  Just day before yesterday, I didn’t notice how many spiders were on the ground until I was midstream.  Not a good day to be a girl. There were hundreds of them and they started crawling on my shoes, and then to top it off, everyone came running over because they thought I was getting murdered.  I’d rather be a man when I’m in dangerous areas, too. Last week, I drove by two guys that were shot and killed and then their car was lit on fire.

Something strange is happening here lately.  I’ve been noticing beautiful young girls and guys all coming from Spain. They look like they have plenty of money. Almost like they’re coming out here on some great backpacking/weed trimming adventure or something. Maybe they didn’t notice all the missing person posters around town.

Yep, because we can perceive advantages, even to being black or female, while never really thinking that the disadvantages would be deal breakers. I'm glad I am what I am, but that doesn't mean that I'm glad I'm not something else. If I were something else, I would accept it just as much as I embrace what I am. But yeah, sometimes it would be nice to have more scholarship opportunities or granted automatic authority on minority issues or get money/attention just because of my body. The "privilege" of being a white guy is that everyone gets to shit on you with impunity.
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(Aug 26, 2018 09:00 PM)Syne Wrote: Yep, because we can perceive advantages, even to being black or female, while never really thinking that the disadvantages would be deal breakers. I'm glad I am what I am, but that doesn't mean that I'm glad I'm not something else. If I were something else, I would accept it just as much as I embrace what I am. But yeah, sometimes it would be nice to have more scholarship opportunities or granted automatic authority on minority issues or get money/attention just because of my body. The "privilege" of being a white guy is that everyone gets to shit on you with impunity.

There were times when being black would have been a deal breaker. There are places where being a woman would be a deal breaker. I think you’re missing the point, Syne. When, where, and what were not our doing. You can be grateful but not proud.
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Syne Offline
(Aug 27, 2018 01:03 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Aug 26, 2018 09:00 PM)Syne Wrote: Yep, because we can perceive advantages, even to being black or female, while never really thinking that the disadvantages would be deal breakers. I'm glad I am what I am, but that doesn't mean that I'm glad I'm not something else. If I were something else, I would accept it just as much as I embrace what I am. But yeah, sometimes it would be nice to have more scholarship opportunities or granted automatic authority on minority issues or get money/attention just because of my body. The "privilege" of being a white guy is that everyone gets to shit on you with impunity.

There were times when being black would have been a deal breaker. There are places where being a woman would be a deal breaker. I think you’re missing the point, Syne. When, where, and what were not our doing. You can be grateful but not proud.

You didn't ask about specific times or places, which now feels like moving the goal posts, but whatever. And the problem with doing so is that, if you were in those times or places, it would likely be the norm that you wouldn't even question. If I were a woman, I wouldn't think twice about liking men, or being subject to an arranged marriage...like every other woman of that time & place. If you can be proud of your intelligence, which has a strong genetic factor, you can be proud of anything that contributes to who you are.

Black culture is not the doing of a child born into it. Are you going to be the one to tell black people that they can't be proud of their own culture? O_o
Good luck with that.
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(Aug 27, 2018 01:25 AM)Syne Wrote: You didn't ask about specific times or places, which now feels like moving the goal posts, but whatever.

No, I didn't move the goal posts.  You asked me if I wished that I was a man and I answered you.

(Aug 26, 2018 03:13 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Aug 24, 2018 02:19 PM)Ben the Donkey Wrote: It isn't enough to ask if we should be proud, we should also be asking why.

What, where, when, and to whom you were born is nothing to be proud of.  It is pure luck.

You're genes contribute but nothing is guaranteed. You dance with your milieu—entangled and intertwined like the double helix itself.
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Syne Offline
(Aug 27, 2018 01:54 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Aug 27, 2018 01:25 AM)Syne Wrote: You didn't ask about specific times or places, which now feels like moving the goal posts, but whatever.

No, I didn't move the goal posts.  You asked me if I wished that I was a man and I answered you.
You don't keep up too well. The goal post was moved from simply '"I’m glad I’m not black" or "I’m glad I’m not a woman"' to specific times or places. Has nothing to do with anything I asked you.
Quote:You're genes contribute but nothing is guaranteed.
Who said it was guaranteed?
The smartest, most athletic, and talented person in the world will never amount to anything without hard work.
You can be proud of both your natural traits and your accomplishments. It's not an either/or scenario.

And considering luck is largely a matter of attitude and outlook, you can be proud of that too.
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confused2 Offline
I was hoping to follow up with a line about God being a rich white male - hasn't quite worked - maybe next time.
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(Jul 28, 2018 06:34 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: Judge awards $8.8 million dollars.

Quote:A man who sued his wife’s lover received an eye-watering $8.8 million in compensation.

…In a civil complaint filed in April 2017, Keith King of Durham County, North Carolina accused Francisco Huizar III of San Antonio, Texas of seducing his wife away from him.

…North Carolina is one of a few states where jilted spouses can sue people for criminal conversation when the person has sex with a married person before separation, and for alienation of affection when "genuine love and affection" has been destroyed by the person.

https://www.newschamps.com/jilted-husban...-newsweek/

Genuine love?  How in the hell do you prove that?  

Um…yes, your honor, here’s a lab report showing my wife’s oxytocin levels prior to the affair.

Wow! That puts a whole new spin on, "Take my wife, please!"  Big Grin

& if the family home where the small children live is worth 250k
the bank owns 65% of it
and the male is the only income erner and the wife has no seperate insurance.
...
where is the money coming from ?
8.8 million of nothing is just as much as nothing.
it sounds like the judge and the plantif are probably in the same woman hating club church group.
maybe the wife objected to them trying to arrange a child marriage so they decided to punish her andher best friend.


its complete moral abandon as advertised so anything is possible.

quid pro quo ? )the fact it was not thrown out means the system is either dirty with dirty players or the judge is as dirty as the plantif all personal relationship break ups effect productivity and profesional life. companys loose millions from these every year, thats why most companys have fraternisation policys about inter office relationships[as well as fraud issues]).

what a mockery of kaw &  civility

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/north-caro...-laws.html
Quote:North Carolina marriage age requirement laws require parties to be 16 to get married with parental consent, while those as young as 14 may obtain license with a court order in the case of pregnancy or childbirth.

when authority looses its ability to lead with morality, all morality becomes lost

busines continuity & income protection insurance for sole traders & LTD private companys
The busines owner should have had insurance protection against his wife who was his busines partner, having some type of issue.
maybe the judge is in bed with an insurance company ?
maybe the judge is a book club member of RBG & this will be the prima face case for all x wifes to sue their husbands for their husbands affairs costing them lost income of their husbands lost income created by the husbands affair which they can now sue for...
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#20
Secular Sanity Offline
(Aug 27, 2018 03:38 AM)Syne Wrote: You don't keep up too well. The goal post was moved from simply '"I’m glad I’m not black" or "I’m glad I’m not a woman"' to specific times or places. Has nothing to do with anything I asked you.

Culture affects our behavior and our interpretation of other people’s behavior. It can be passed down from one generation to the next.  Even our concepts of success is derived from our culture. Why limit it to western society?

(Aug 26, 2018 07:55 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I’d rather be a man when I’m in dangerous areas, too. Last week, I drove by two guys that were shot and killed and then their car was lit on fire.

You didn’t call me out on my bias, so I don’t expect you to spot yours. You’re more likely to be murdered than I am. You’ve probably experienced more physical and verbal aggression than I have.

Do you see any in your sentence?

(Aug 26, 2018 09:00 PM)Syne Wrote: Sometimes it would be nice to have more scholarship opportunities or granted automatic authority on minority issues or get money/attention just because of my body.

(Aug 27, 2018 01:25 AM)Syne Wrote: You didn't ask about specific times or places, which now feels like moving the goal posts, but whatever. And the problem with doing so is that, if you were in those times or places, it would likely be the norm that you wouldn't even question. If I were a woman, I wouldn't think twice about liking men, or being subject to an arranged marriage...like every other woman of that time & place.

If we didn’t question it, we wouldn’t be where we are today.



(Aug 27, 2018 02:21 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: what a mockery of law & civility

I know.  It’s crazy, isn’t it?

We’re no longer considered property, so it shifted from loss of proprietary interest to the loss of emotional and physical comfort. You have to prove that genuine love existed within the marriage and that a third party destroyed it. You don’t have to prove that your marriage was perfect but that some amount of love was involved. The only evidence required for proof is that the jilted spouse thought they had a good marriage. 

The justification for maintaining this law is to discourage divorce and infidelity.  Adultery is still illegal in twenty states. You can be fined and/or imprisoned. Normally, it’s in conjunction with criminal conversation (infidelity) but it doesn’t have to be. Anyone that encourages you to leave the marriage can be sued. Unlike with alienation of affection, though, not knowing that someone is married isn’t a applicable defense to criminal converstion. The offense has to take place within the state, though.  Hmm…maybe we should invest in a few hotels next to the State line.

How can you own love and affection? Why should the government be involved in the matters of the heart?  How can they regulate our sentiments?
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