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Psychology prof the new Hitler? What’s So Dangerous About Jordan Peterson?

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Syne Offline
(Sep 9, 2019 08:34 PM)Leigha Wrote: Personally, I think that Jordan Peterson has a down to earth way about him, and some of his views are somewhat refreshing, because he goes against the grain of the mainstream culture/social media views on post modernism and feminism. That said, I'm always a bit put off when I see a speaker/lecturer/philosopher/professor/author only attract men, or mainly men. In Peterson's case, it seems like he attracts a certain type of guy - men who look to explain the problems of the world in terms of gender. I don't dislike Peterson, but I tend to look at the ''fan club'' of a person, and that usually tells me if the message is going to resonate with me or not. Some of his messages are appealing, but he definitely seems to appeal to men who want to blame women for their lot in life. That might not be his intent, but that is the end result. So, if that's not his intent, why are so many anti-feminist/gender-line-drawing men drawn to Peterson? (That is my general observation and also what I've read from various critics of his, and also some of his ''followers.'')

Now, he does have a small following of women, mainly women who are not feminists, and perhaps could be traditionalists, etc. I'd say the same thing above about a feminist who is popular with jaded women, who wants to blame all of their problems on men. There are a ton of them on youtube, and it's all white noise. It goes both ways for me.

It seems from the little I've read, that Peterson offers some solid life advice for men who struggle with finding their place in life, and purpose. His message seems to be about standing strong, fighting against identity politics, and being one's own person. I think that the ''left'' dislike him because he is against feminism in its present state, and wants to encourage dissent to the cultural narratives of gender equality and mainstream feminism. Admittedly, I'm not super familiar with Peterson, but have read a few things, heard a few things, and read mainly what his critics and fans are talking about to get a general picture of what his intent might be.

Peterson explicitly tells men to quit blaming others. That includes women. He just points out the cultural hurdles to learning how to be a man nowadays. The women who like him are probably interested in finding real men, like what Peterson hopes to encourage. I have yet to see anyone actually use Peterson to blame women without dishonestly taking things out of context. So guilt by association with some demographic, mostly made by "hit pieces", may not be a good look for anyone honestly trying to evaluate him.
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(Sep 10, 2019 05:24 PM)Yazata Wrote: She wrote his 'Genealogy of Morals'?

http://www.inp.uw.edu.pl/mdsie/Political...Morals.pdf

That book could have been written by Hitler himself. It extols what Leni Riefenstahl called the "Triumph of the Will" in her truly extraordinary movie, the idea of the "Ubermensch", pervasive antisemitism (Nietzsche blamed the Jews as the primary agents of the degradation of the human race), the idea of the blond Aryan race rolling over all the inferior peoples who are reduced by their clear inferiority to "resentiment", the idea of "master morality" and "slave morality", and the extraordinary idea that Masters don't follow morality, they create it.

The whole book is basically an elegy for what Nietzsche takes to be the warrior ethos of the prehistoric German tribes. (His all-conquering Aryans.)

(Jul 21, 2019 04:49 PM)Yazata Wrote: With the possible exception of CC, I'm probably the only philosophy graduate on this board. (I actually went back years later and did an MA, simply for personal interest.) And I've done ok. Not a Silicon Valley billionaire, but middle class (more or less). I've never had a job that was seeking philosophy graduates, per-se, but a number of jobs that wanted educated literate people.

And with so many misconceptions, wow!

Did you study Nietzsche or is analytical philosophy more dominate in our universities?
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