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[Syne]

No, when the symptom is isolated to the nervous system, unless we can show actual nervous disruption/malfunction (which would be a medical diagnosis), it's all a matter of how the brain interprets/handles nerve impulses. Blindness and pain are interpretations of nerve inputs, while paralysis, fits, and tremors are handling of nerve outputs.
Now if you're talking about mind over brain, then we'd agree (because that's neuroplasticisty). But that's still very far from bodily manifestations like stigmata.

Just shut up. I'm not arguing about petty shit you just make up off the top of your head. It's the physical externalization in the body of extreme mental states.

As usual, you start getting ugly the second people tell you facts you don't like. Notice how you don't even dispute any specific fact there. You just tell people to "shut up" to quell your own cognitive dissonance. Here's some of the things you imagine are made up:

Functional neurologic disorders — a newer and broader term that includes what some people call conversion disorder — feature nervous system (neurological) symptoms that can't be explained by a neurological disease or other medical condition.
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The cause of functional neurologic disorders is unknown. The condition may be triggered by a neurological disorder or by a reaction to stress or psychological or physical trauma, but that's not always the case. Functional neurologic disorders are related to how the brain functions, rather than damage to the brain's structure (such as from a stroke, multiple sclerosis, infection or injury).
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Basically, parts of the brain that control the functioning of your muscles and senses may be involved, even though no disease or abnormality exists.
- https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...c-20355197


For decades, researchers assumed that humans had to acquire binocular vision, in particular stereopsis, in early childhood or they would never gain it. In recent years, however, successful improvements in persons with amblyopia, convergence insufficiency or other stereo vision anomalies have become prime examples of neuroplasticity; binocular vision improvements and stereopsis recovery are now active areas of scientific and clinical research.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity#Vision

The first speaks to your claim of conversion disorder leading to bodily manifestations (beyond simply motor/behavioral), while the second seems to speak directly to the woman with double vision (convergence insufficiency) in your OP video. Care to refute any of that, or are you just going to keep being ugly in lieu of anything resembling rational discussion? O_o

[Magical Realist]

None of that refutes that conversion disorder is the externalization as physical symptoms of extreme mental states. You're obviously arguing about nothing at this point.

[Syne]

None of that refutes that conversion disorder is the externalization as physical symptoms of extreme mental states. You're obviously arguing about nothing at this point.

Well...were you planning on offering any better explanation for mental states causing physical wounds? Because nothing you've offered so far does anything of the kind.

Or are you moving your own goalposts now? Is "externalization" just a word you can equivocate as if it covers everything from action/behavior to actual physical wounds?
Do you think the mind being able to cause bodily action somehow encompasses stigmata? O_o

[Magical Realist]

Well...were you planning on offering any better explanation for mental states causing physical wounds?

I'm not offering any explanation. I simply mentioned the phenomena and it's many examples. So keep bitch'n troll. Nobody's listening.

[Syne]

So all that conversion disorder, hysterical pregnancy, and possessions talk was just a non sequitur?
Or do you really expect us to believe that that wasn't a poor attempt to legitimize your more outlandish claims?

I think we are dealing here with the physical externalization of an intense mental state. Conversion disorder is an example of bodily disorder brought on by stress, often mimicking the symptoms of real diseases. Hysterical pregnancies is another. Other more "paranormal" examples might include spontaneous human combustions, possessions, and even scars on alien abductees. I think we underestimate the power of belief on the physical body.

Conversion disorders strictly pertain to the nervous system. While symptoms of "possession" are likely mental illness, conversion disorder cannot explain things like scars.

I've shown you that conversion disorder isn't "an example of bodily disorder", but no doubt your belief won't even allow you to admit that much. \/
And none of the things you've mentioned lend any credibility to things like stigmata.

[Magical Realist]

Don't worry about it bitch. You will always find more things to bitch about in this forum, effectively driving away all the other posters.

[Syne]

Thank you for continuing to prove your habit of unprovoked name-calling and hostility for any discussion that simply doesn't validate your beliefs. I guess your strategy is to make my posts unpleasant simply by association with your own. Good luck with that.