New Theory Explains Dark Matter

#1
FluidSpaceMan Offline
What if normal, gravity producing matter, was also surrounded by a space-time contraction field?  There is a website out there that describes a new theory that predicts such a field.

http://www.fluidspacetheory.com/fluidspacetheory/

If this is true, governments around the world are wasting billions looking for dark matter.
Reply
#2
Syne Offline
Can you give a brief summary of the theory, without all the prologue in your link?

How is a "space-time contraction field" different from what the gravity of ordinary matter does to space-time geometry?
Reply
#3
FluidSpaceMan Offline
(Dec 2, 2017 06:25 PM)Syne Wrote: Can you give a brief summary of the theory, without all the prologue in your link?

How is a "space-time contraction field" different from what the gravity of ordinary matter does to space-time geometry?

Einstein's GR describes a somewhat static warping of space time.  The warped space follows the motion of the object but nothing more.

FST reproduces this same warping but with a dynamic inflow that causes space-time to continually vanish over time.  Think of the waterfall analogy, gravitational mass continuously gobbles up space-time.  So in addition to the gravity field as described by GR, there is an additional contraction field.
Reply
#4
Syne Offline
(Dec 2, 2017 07:37 PM)FluidSpaceMan Wrote:
(Dec 2, 2017 06:25 PM)Syne Wrote: Can you give a brief summary of the theory, without all the prologue in your link?

How is a "space-time contraction field" different from what the gravity of ordinary matter does to space-time geometry?

Einstein's GR describes a somewhat static warping of space time.  The warped space follows the motion of the object but nothing more.

Not quite. Matter tells space how to bend and space tells matter how to move. That's a pretty dynamic feedback system.

Quote:FST reproduces this same warping but with a dynamic inflow that causes space-time to continually vanish over time.  Think of the waterfall analogy, gravitational mass continuously gobbles up space-time.  So in addition to the gravity field as described by GR, there is an additional contraction field.

What predictable effect does that extra "inflow" produce?
Shouldn't the universe be contracting if space-time is continually vanishing?
Reply
#5
FluidSpaceMan Offline
(Dec 2, 2017 08:09 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Dec 2, 2017 07:37 PM)FluidSpaceMan Wrote:
(Dec 2, 2017 06:25 PM)Syne Wrote: Can you give a brief summary of the theory, without all the prologue in your link?

How is a "space-time contraction field" different from what the gravity of ordinary matter does to space-time geometry?

Einstein's GR describes a somewhat static warping of space time.  The warped space follows the motion of the object but nothing more.

Not quite. Matter tells space how to bend and space tells matter how to move. That's a pretty dynamic feedback system.

Quote:FST reproduces this same warping but with a dynamic inflow that causes space-time to continually vanish over time.  Think of the waterfall analogy, gravitational mass continuously gobbles up space-time.  So in addition to the gravity field as described by GR, there is an additional contraction field.

What predictable effect does that extra "inflow" produce?
Shouldn't the universe be contracting if space-time is continually vanishing?
Yes, in Einstein's GR matter tells space-time how to curve, so an object like a planet or a star is surrounded by a region of curved space-time that comes along it as it moves, and directs its motion as it interacts with the curved space surrounding other objects.  But a lone star or planet could have a pretty stable, or static gravitational field, certainly not one imagined to be consuming the space-time surrounding it.

According to section 4 of the on-line PDF, the contraction field acts to produce flat galaxy rotation curves and hold galaxy clusters together similar to dark matter.  The contraction field is still imposed over a universal expansion, acting to slow expansion within galaxies and galaxy clusters.

Depending on the balance, it could result in a flat universe, an ever expanding one, or one that will fall back in on itself.  So that doesn't really change anything except this is all caused by normal matter and nothing more is required.
Reply
#6
Syne Offline
(Dec 2, 2017 09:24 PM)FluidSpaceMan Wrote: According to section 4 of the on-line PDF, the contraction field acts to produce flat galaxy rotation curves and hold galaxy clusters together similar to dark matter.  The contraction field is still imposed over a universal expansion, acting to slow expansion within galaxies and galaxy clusters.

Depending on the balance, it could result in a flat universe, an ever expanding one, or one that will fall back in on itself.  So that doesn't really change anything except this is all caused by normal matter and nothing more is required.

Why is "space-time contraction" more prominent toward the edges of galaxies?
Does it increase with the square of the distance? Why?

How does it explain the accelerating expansion of the universe?



And does it (FST) make any unique predictions, or is it just a competing hypothesis to dark matter?
Reply
#7
FluidSpaceMan Offline
(Dec 2, 2017 09:54 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Dec 2, 2017 09:24 PM)FluidSpaceMan Wrote: According to section 4 of the on-line PDF, the contraction field acts to produce flat galaxy rotation curves and hold galaxy clusters together similar to dark matter.  The contraction field is still imposed over a universal expansion, acting to slow expansion within galaxies and galaxy clusters.

Depending on the balance, it could result in a flat universe, an ever expanding one, or one that will fall back in on itself.  So that doesn't really change anything except this is all caused by normal matter and nothing more is required.

Why is "space-time contraction" more prominent toward the edges of galaxies?
Does it increase with the square of the distance? Why?

How does it explain the accelerating expansion of the universe?



And does it (FST) make any unique predictions, or is it just a competing hypothesis to dark matter?
It is all on the web site to read.  Regular gravity falls of with the square of the distance, the contraction field falls off more slowly making it more effective than normal gravity at longer distances.

See section 4.1

Yes, it answers the arrow of time question, it predicts that black holes do not contain singularities, and accurately calculates gravitational field energy and vacuum energy.

It is worth reading for that information alone.
Reply
#8
Syne Offline
(Dec 3, 2017 06:42 PM)FluidSpaceMan Wrote:
(Dec 2, 2017 09:54 PM)Syne Wrote: Why is "space-time contraction" more prominent toward the edges of galaxies?
Does it increase with the square of the distance? Why?

How does it explain the accelerating expansion of the universe?



And does it (FST) make any unique predictions, or is it just a competing hypothesis to dark matter?
It is all on the web site to read.  Regular gravity falls of with the square of the distance, the contraction field falls off more slowly making it more effective than normal gravity at longer distances.

Then it contributes to the effect of gravity near matter? That's the only way it could decrease with distance.
What percentage of gravity near matter do you claim is actually this "contraction field"?

Quote:See section 4.1

Yes, it answers the arrow of time question, it predicts that black holes do not contain singularities, and accurately calculates gravitational field energy and vacuum energy.

It is worth reading for that information alone.

I didn't ask about the arrow of time, nor black holes.

I DID ask about the accelerating expansion of space and unique predictions.

If you can't answer those, don't try to distract with non sequiturs....just admit it.


And if you can't answer simple questions about it on this forum, quit proselytizing it everywhere (including in unrelated topics).
Reply
#9
Secular Sanity Offline
Is it similar to Stefano Liberati’s and Luca Maccione’s theory?
Reply
#10
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Dec 2, 2017 04:16 PM)FluidSpaceMan Wrote: What if normal, gravity producing matter, was also surrounded by a space-time contraction field?  There is a website out there that describes a new theory that predicts such a field.

http://www.fluidspacetheory.com/fluidspacetheory/

If this is true, governments around the world are wasting billions looking for dark matter.

there is the inverted universe theory.
which defines things like suns being created in reverse.
like a harmonic field where energy is produced at points that cross each other.

this kinda sounds a little like the void theory of that.

as an aside...
keeping that(general area of discussion) in mind...
there is an ever growing field of scientism christians who enjoy the idea of undermining basic physics with "magical" god attributable concepts just to appease their own interest in fringe theory.
while they may be great ways to increase communication on advanced thinking models, unfortunately they are fertile ground for flat earth extremists to convert ignorant people to dog-whistle scientism.

does probability define gravitational reality ?
are there any examples to show that probability exists outside the statistically probable model ?

im fascinated by the thermodynamics liniar concept as it fits to be uni directional but not to an absolute. its much like the speed of sound barrier.
how much of our understanding of science is based on principals that only appear to be laws to a point that we are yet to aquire the ability to compute past... ?
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Research Dark matter may be illusion + Cassini proves complex chemistry in Enceladus ocean C C 2 457 Oct 2, 2025 07:17 PM
Last Post: C C
  Research Astronomers find rare Einstein cross with fifth image, revealing hidden dark matter C C 0 297 Sep 18, 2025 12:28 AM
Last Post: C C
  Research How black holes could nuture life + Is dark energy getting weaker? New evidence for C C 1 733 Mar 20, 2025 07:41 PM
Last Post: stryder
  Research Mysterious phenomenon at center of galaxy could reveal new kind of dark matter C C 1 641 Mar 11, 2025 01:56 AM
Last Post: Zinjanthropos
  Article Why doesn’t dark matter collapse due to gravity? C C 0 565 Feb 4, 2025 01:45 AM
Last Post: C C
  Research Bad news for dark matter: This data doesn't fit at all. C C 0 534 Jun 26, 2024 06:18 PM
Last Post: C C
  Article Is dark matter’s main rival theory dead? C C 1 743 May 10, 2024 09:52 PM
Last Post: stryder
  Research New research suggests that our universe has no dark matter + Matter's existence C C 0 472 Mar 18, 2024 07:04 PM
Last Post: C C
  Research Controversial new theory of gravity rules out need for dark matter C C 0 503 Mar 11, 2024 07:31 PM
Last Post: C C
  Article Is dark matter subatomic particles, or a superfluid, or both? C C 0 384 Feb 6, 2024 07:52 PM
Last Post: C C



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)