Bad hobbies: No sacred cows as sex scandal purge marches on

[Secular Sanity]

Feminist equality demanded that women act like men. So if a man wouldn't report sexual harassment, I guess they reasoned that an equal woman shouldn't either. After all, that would be admitting to differences between the sexes, especially that women could be more sensitive or vulnerable. But they've went from demanding women be like men, just as promiscuous and crude, to men being like women, just as well-behaved.

Now we are back to men treating women as women and women expecting it. It's like society as a whole is maturing and becoming more sexually conservative again.

Maybe more sexually appropriate but conservative...no way.

[Zinjanthropos]

Over the centuries how much if anything did men marching off to war contribute to the current situation? Do men have a sense of entitlement when it comes to inappropriate sexual advances, possibly because women have been regarded as a spoil of war? Men treat it as a trade off for risk taking?

We have terrorists blowing people up all for the prospects of an enternity of owning a few women. Casting couch is one thing but I find men treating women as property or men behaving like a control freak a hell of a lot more disgusting than copping a feel. Are we talking every guy in the world, what is the percentage?

[Syne]

Feminist equality demanded that women act like men. So if a man wouldn't report sexual harassment, I guess they reasoned that an equal woman shouldn't either. After all, that would be admitting to differences between the sexes, especially that women could be more sensitive or vulnerable. But they've went from demanding women be like men, just as promiscuous and crude, to men being like women, just as well-behaved.

Now we are back to men treating women as women and women expecting it. It's like society as a whole is maturing and becoming more sexually conservative again.

Maybe more sexually appropriate but conservative...no way.

There certainly seem to be overwhelmingly more liberals facing accusations. Aside from the fact that sexual propriety has always featured in conservatism...not so much leftist liberalism.

[C C]

[...] But they've went from demanding women be like men, just as promiscuous and crude, to men being like women, just as well-behaved.

Now we are back to men treating women as women and women expecting it. It's like society as a whole is maturing and becoming more sexually conservative again.

There were once laws (in many places other than this example of Michigan) that made it a misdemeanor to utter vulgar language around women and children. Ironically the last of these archaic statutes are finally taken off the books just as there may be a shift looming on the horizon to reinstate modern equivalents of them.[*]

So some current or future outrage / shaming events and their consequent job firings -- but certainly not those revolving around rape, violence, severe harassment and erotic display -- could be construed as at least "echoes" of the past. A past prior to relaxation of censorship in entertainment / literature and the '60s sexual revolution / liberation. Also maybe punctures the popular view felt among "oppressed" or horndog intellectuals of those puritanical days that any societal period of inhibitions and prim sensibilities afflicting us has its source in religion. (That is, update it to "ideological crusades" of even secular communities.)

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[*] "Autonomous space" seems to have already mutated and splintered off to signify a club / gathering restricted to qualifying members. (Prejudice justified by protection concerns; though class hierarchy also long did such to keep out the riffraff.)

But the original meaning of "safe space" usually applied to LGBT sensitivities in the context of educational environments, and said authorities of the latter not tolerating abusive speech and behavior in that context. However, like so many idioms co-opted in the past by a larger population (especially by whites / straights), one can expect even this formal concept (arguably outputted by microaggression theory) to eventually become utile to whatever sensitivities are unique to other groups.

The outright vicious-bully stuff should be regulated in institutions in terms of whoever it's directed at. But trivial or mincing "Princess and the Pea" refined sensitivities will doubtless slip through the cracks and be tediously or ludicrously accommodated, too.

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