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Same-sex penguins raise a baby chick (bird hobbies)

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(video) https://www.cbsnews.com/video/same-sex-p...aby-chick/

EXCERPT: At the Sea Life Sydney Aquarium in Australia, true love has found a way for two penguins: Sphen, a seven-year-old male, and his three-year-old male partner, Magic. "About three months before breeding season, that's when we started to see signs of bonding," said penguin supervisor Tish Hannan. "That includes bowing to each other and singing to each other."

Before long, Sphen and Magic were exchanging pebbles, and using them to set up housekeeping. "We noticed they started building the most beautiful nest they could possibly make," said Hannan. Sphen and Magic went on to hatch a baby chick from a penguin egg they'd been given to sit on – a noteworthy event, said Hannan: "The real special thing about Sphen and Magic is they're one of a handful of same-sex couples that have actually incubated and raised a chick."

MORE: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/same-sex-pe...aby-chick/

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HISTORY OF SAME-SEX PENGUIN COUPLES: Roy and Silo (born 1987) are chinstrap penguins which were a same-sex male pair in New York City's Central Park Zoo. They were noted by staff at the zoo in 1998 to be performing mating rituals, although no actual sexual acts were witnessed [...] In 1999 the pair were observed trying to hatch a rock as if it were an egg. They also attempted to steal eggs from other penguin couples. When the zoo staff realized that Roy and Silo were both male, they tested them further by replacing the rock with a dummy egg made of stone and plaster. As it was "incubated real well", it occurred to the zoo keepers to give them the second egg of a mixed-sex penguin couple, a couple which previously had been unable to successfully hatch two eggs at a time. Roy and Silo incubated the egg for 34 days and spent two and a half months raising the healthy young chick, a female named "Tango". When she reached breeding age, Tango paired with another female penguin called Tanuzi. As of 2005, the two had paired for two mating seasons.

Shortly after their story broke in the press, Roy and Silo began to separate after a more aggressive pair of penguins forced them out of their nest. In 2005, Silo found another partner, a female called Scrappy, which had been brought from SeaWorld Orlando in 2002. Roy joined a group of unattached male penguins. As of 2012, Roy and Silo are both thought to still be alive at around 25 years old, with the Central Park Zoo's website stating that penguins in captivity can live up to 30 years.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_and_Silo

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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Feb 11, 2019 03:30 AM)C C Wrote: (video) https://www.cbsnews.com/video/same-sex-p...aby-chick/

EXCERPT: At the Sea Life Sydney Aquarium in Australia, true love has found a way for two penguins: Sphen, a seven-year-old male, and his three-year-old male partner, Magic. "About three months before breeding season, that's when we started to see signs of bonding," said penguin supervisor Tish Hannan. "That includes bowing to each other and singing to each other."

Before long, Sphen and Magic were exchanging pebbles, and using them to set up housekeeping. "We noticed they started building the most beautiful nest they could possibly make," said Hannan. Sphen and Magic went on to hatch a baby chick from a penguin egg they'd been given to sit on – a noteworthy event, said Hannan: "The real special thing about Sphen and Magic is they're one of a handful of same-sex couples that have actually incubated and raised a chick."

MORE: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/same-sex-pe...aby-chick/

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HISTORY OF SAME-SEX PENGUIN COUPLES: Roy and Silo (born 1987) are chinstrap penguins which were a same-sex male pair in New York City's Central Park Zoo. They were noted by staff at the zoo in 1998 to be performing mating rituals, although no actual sexual acts were witnessed [...] In 1999 the pair were observed trying to hatch a rock as if it were an egg. They also attempted to steal eggs from other penguin couples. When the zoo staff realized that Roy and Silo were both male, they tested them further by replacing the rock with a dummy egg made of stone and plaster. As it was "incubated real well", it occurred to the zoo keepers to give them the second egg of a mixed-sex penguin couple, a couple which previously had been unable to successfully hatch two eggs at a time. Roy and Silo incubated the egg for 34 days and spent two and a half months raising the healthy young chick, a female named "Tango". When she reached breeding age, Tango paired with another female penguin called Tanuzi. As of 2005, the two had paired for two mating seasons.

Shortly after their story broke in the press, Roy and Silo began to separate after a more aggressive pair of penguins forced them out of their nest. In 2005, Silo found another partner, a female called Scrappy, which had been brought from SeaWorld Orlando in 2002. Roy joined a group of unattached male penguins. As of 2012, Roy and Silo are both thought to still be alive at around 25 years old, with the Central Park Zoo's website stating that penguins in captivity can live up to 30 years.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_and_Silo

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i have watched nature documentary's that go back many decades where zoologists & naturalists clearly show same sex couples among various species.
i have known about penguin same sex couples for many many years.
to me its not really news as much as it is science.


interestingly the habits of penguins to steal baby penguins that move between nests is interesting.
to a point at times when the baby penguin dies in the ensuing fight.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote:true love has found a way for two penguins

How could anyone know that? 

Like RU I watch documentaries. Seems to me that for most of their lives penguins live primarily amongst the same sex. Whether hunting of incubating, and I’m thinking of the Antarctic variety, the sexes spend most of their time apart. To me it’s an evolved survival mechanism. I get a kick out of male penguins, who sans partner have been huddled together hatching eggs for months in the harshest environment on Earth , reluctantly handing over the chick to returning females. Then it’s the males turn to vamoose. 

Do zoos and aquariums upset the course of evolution, particularly for the captives? It is a form of isolation, something I think plays an important role in triggering adaptation and evolution of species. Could what we think is avian love actually be the evolutionary process in its infancy?
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(Feb 11, 2019 01:20 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:true love has found a way for two penguins

How could anyone know that? 

Like RU I watch documentaries. Seems to me that for most of their lives penguins live primarily amongst the same sex. Whether hunting of incubating, and I’m thinking of the Antarctic variety, the sexes spend most of their time apart. To me it’s an evolved survival mechanism. I get a kick out of male penguins, who sans partner have been huddled together hatching eggs for months in the harshest environment on Earth , reluctantly handing over the chick to returning females. Then it’s the males turn to vamoose. 

Do zoos and aquariums upset the course of evolution, particularly for the captives? It is a form of isolation, something I think plays an important role in triggering adaptation and evolution of species. Could what we think is avian love actually be the evolutionary process in its infancy?

Quote:Could what we think is avian love actually be the evolutionary process in its infancy?
queue the big beasty of anthropomorphism
and oh how it fashions our own evolution, cultures, religion & societal structure.

i don't think its a negative.(to draw my comment short of entropic evolutionary principals as a theory[does involvement create more different behaviors which increases or decreases complexity/entropy?{mathematical concept of the nature of the universe etc...}])
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Zinjanthropos Offline
RU.... as humanity takes over the globe, do we become zookeepers? Farms, nature reserves, etc included. Driving a species from its habitat is a form of isolating that animal IMO. Adapt or become extinct in your new environment. The other option is to adapt to live among us.

If I drop a bar of soap in the shower of a federal prison will I find love if I bend over to pick it up? If I’m a caged male penguin and a more dominant caged male penguin wants me as his hen then I guess it could be seen as love from the human perspective.
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