[split] On Privilege

[Magical Realist]

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So privilege is your parents/culture making better choices. Got it. Thanks.

Privilege is the headstart you get in life from being raised in a privileged family.

[Syne]

So privilege is your parents/culture making better choices. Got it. Thanks.

Privelege is the headstart you get in life from being raised in a priveleged family.

So...your parents/culture making better choices. Yeah, I got it.
It's not a head start, it's other parents/cultures handicapping their children.
We know this because all the things mentioned are normal for people to have, and even used to be normal for minorities to have...prior to the New Deal.

No one should feel guilty for providing a normal upbringing. People should feel shame for handicapping their children.

[Magical Realist]

We know this because all the things mentioned are normal for people to have, and even used to be normal for minorities to have...prior to the New Deal.

It's not normal for black families who come from single parent one income families and have done so for generations. That handicap is passed down to black kids of every succeeding generation and deprives them of the opportunities that white families have accrued and passed down for generations. Like the video said, factors that have nothing to do with what they did.

[Syne]

We know this because all the things mentioned are normal for people to have, and even used to be normal for minorities to have...prior to the New Deal.

It's not normal for black families who come from single parent one income families and have done so for generations. That handicap is passed down to black kids of every succeeding generation and deprives them of the opportunities that white families have accrued and passed down for generations. Like the video said, factors that have nothing to do with what they did.

Exactly. The bad choices of their parents/culture. So intact families are "accrued and passed down"?
The only way such bad decisions become generational is because every child makes the same bad choices in their turn. IOW, it will be the child's fault for their own children being poisoned with the same bad decision making skills. Raising children as victims handicaps them.

[Magical Realist]

We know this because all the things mentioned are normal for people to have, and even used to be normal for minorities to have...prior to the New Deal.

It's not normal for black families who come from single parent one income families and have done so for generations. That handicap is passed down to black kids of every succeeding generation and deprives them of the opportunities that white families have accrued and passed down for generations. Like the video said, factors that have nothing to do with what they did.

Exactly. The bad choices of their parents/culture. So intact families are "accrued and passed down"?
The only way such bad decisions become generational is because every child makes the same bad choices in their turn. IOW, it will be the child's fault for their own children being poisoned with the same bad decision making skills. Raising children as victims handicaps them.

The handicap is being raised poor in a one parent family with no male role model. That's something that persists for generations, from children to grandchildren to great grandchildren. It has nothing to do with victim mentality and everything to do with lacking the priveleges passed down to white kids. So spare me your disgusting racist shit about blacks being morally responsible for their own disadvantages in our society. It has nothing to do with anything they did.

[Syne]

Exactly. The bad choices of their parents/culture. So intact families are "accrued and passed down"?
The only way such bad decisions become generational is because every child makes the same bad choices in their turn. IOW, it will be the child's fault for their own children being poisoned with the same bad decision making skills. Raising children as victims handicaps them.

The handicap is being raised poor in a one parent family with no male role model. That's something that persists for generations, from children to grandchildren to great grandchildren. It has nothing to do with victim mentality and everything to do with lacking the priveleges passed down to white kids. So spare me your disgusting racist shit about blacks being morally responsible for their own disadvantages in our society. It has nothing to do with anything they did.

Since graduating high school (or GED), marriage before children, and getting a job are the ONLY predictors of avoiding lifelong poverty, it is either their own choices or those taught them by their parents which are responsible.


"Let politicians, schoolteachers and administrators, community leaders, ministers and parents drill into children the message that in a free society, they enter adulthood with three major responsibilities: at least finish high school, get a full-time job and wait until age 21 to get married and have children.

Our research shows that of American adults who followed these three simple rules, only about 2 percent are in poverty and nearly 75 percent have joined the middle class (defined as earning around $55,000 or more per year)." - https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/three...dle-class/


Three choices determine whether that trend persists, but racists like you insist that blacks are incapable of doing these three simple things...or doing anything substantially different than their great grandparents did. It's like you believe the medieval idea of the sins of the father being visited upon four generations. I guess it makes you feel superior to think black can't do simple things you can.

[Magical Realist]

Since graduating high school (or GED), marriage before children, and getting a job are the ONLY predictors of avoiding lifelong poverty, it is either their own choices or those taught them by their parents which are responsible.

Other predictors include having no male role model in a father and getting sucked into gangs and a life of crime, segregation in poorer districts and poor schools where there is more crime and less opportunities, inability to afford college and so get a degree, and just being black and so stereotyped by employers and racists like you to be somehow morally incapable of getting their act together. All of these together produce the handicap that gets passed to your kids, and to their kids, and to their kids. It's not their fault. It's just part of being an underpriveleged stigmatized minority in our predominantly white society and culture.

[Syne]

Since graduating high school (or GED), marriage before children, and getting a job are the ONLY predictors of avoiding lifelong poverty, it is either their own choices or those taught them by their parents which are responsible.

Other predictors include having no male role model in a father and getting sucked into gangs and a life of crime, segregation in poorer districts and poor schools where there is more crime and less opportunities, inability to afford college and so get a degree, and just being black and so stereotyped by employers and racists like you to be somehow morally incapable of getting their act together. All of these together produce the handicap that gets passed to your kids, and to their kids, and to their kids. It's  not their fault. It's just part of being an underpriveleged stigmatized minority in our predominantly white society and culture.

Yeah, choosing not to get married is the number one cause of fatherless children. Segregation happens most in areas controlled by racist Democrats. Getting a degree isn't one of the steps to getting out of poverty, and anyone can get a GED.

You're the racist piece of shit who seems to think no black person can overcome the handicap inflicted upon them by their parents...and must immorally inflict it on their own children. I belief they can and do get their act together, as people like Ben Carson illustrate. It is the parents fault. Are you so racist that you can't even admit blacks are capable of being responsible for their own choices? Or do you think blacks inherently lack free will? O_o

The only stigma is the persistence of bad choices in certain cultures. People making good choices doesn't keep others from making good choices as well. It's immoral racists like you who keep telling them otherwise that maintains their victim mentality. You just can't seem to bear the idea of a black person doing as well or better than you.

[Magical Realist]

You're the racist piece of shit who seems to think no black person can overcome the handicap inflicted upon them by their parents...and must immorally inflict it on their own children. I belief they can and do get their act together, as people like Ben Carson illustrate. It is the parents fault. Are you so racist that you can't even admit blacks are capable of being responsible for their own choices? Or do you think blacks inherently lack free will? O_o

We're talking privilege here moron. And handicaps and setbacks from the starting line. Remember the video demonstrating that? No matter how much free choice you impute to black people, that doesn't nullify the obstacles that society and their raising has put in front of them. Just like all the racers chose to run after the 100 dollar bill, but started at different positions. What is so hard grasp about this? White kids start closer to the finish line, and black kids start farther. It's simple logic and has nothing to do with free choice. And spare me your "I believe so much in black people" act. You only say that so that when they fail, as many do in our society, you can then blame it on them. That's what racists do. They blame the victim. Then they gloat that blacks are just too lazy or unmotivated to help themselves. Hmmm..they must be a morally inferior race eh?

[Syne]

You're the racist piece of shit who seems to think no black person can overcome the handicap inflicted upon them by their parents...and must immorally inflict it on their own children. I belief they can and do get their act together, as people like Ben Carson illustrate. It is the parents fault. Are you so racist that you can't even admit blacks are capable of being responsible for their own choices? Or do you think blacks inherently lack free will? O_o

We're talking privilege here moron. And handicaps and setbacks from the starting line. Remember the video demonstrating that? No matter how much free choice you impute to black people, that doesn't nullify the obstacles that society and their raising has put in front of them. Just like all the racers chose to run after the 100 dollar bill, but started at different positions. What is so hard grasp about this? White kids start closer to the finish line, and blacks start farther. It's simple logic and has nothing to do with free choice. And spare me your "I believe so much in black people" act. You only say that so that when they fail, as many do in our society, you can then blame it on them. That's what racists do. They blame the victim. Then they gloat that blacks are just too lazy or unmotivated to help themselves. Hmmm..they must be a morally inferior race eh?

Parents staying together is not a privilege, dipshit. It's the normal behavior of the human species, including blacks until the New Deal. Normal is not a privilege (a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people). Normal is not special, but illiterate racists like you have to conflate the two to justify how they deny the moral agency of blacks. You can't have it both ways. If blacks aren't to blame for their own choices, then you must be assuming they have little moral agency. Hell, you seem to overtly say that have no free will (e.g."nothing to do with free choice").

It's not a problem of kids starting from a NORMAL upbringing. The problem is those handicapped by a deficient upbringing. Those three choices are not "available only to a particular person or group". Anyone can make those choices.

The handicap is induced by bad choices and bad incentives. Good choices do nullify the obstacles of ones past, otherwise drug and alcohol abusers could never recover.

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You're the racist who expects them to fail...so much so that you willingly incentivize it. If you vote Democrat, you willfully endorse racial segregation in poorer neighborhoods and the subsequently ill-funded schools (which you even deny vouchers to escape), high abortion rates for blacks (almost 3x higher), welfare benefits too high to incentivize joining the workforce...all of which subvert the three predictors of success.

You're the racist oppressor with your boot on their neck. And all you do is bleat about privilege so you can avoid doing anything or changing any policies that would actually help. Hashtag privilege, y'all.