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[Magical Realist]

Syne's night job..

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Syne's racist narrative:

Black people have freewill. They can easily pull themselves out of poverty and a bad raising because they have freewill. If they don't do this it is because they are morally inferior. But helping them out with food stamps and welfare and affirmative action and affordable healthcare violates their freewill because they have no choice but to be on those programs. Therefore black people cause their own problems, and any help for those problems by outside agencies only victimizes them and makes them helpless addicts to the benefits they qualify for. Therefore, blacks cause their own problems, except when Democrats pass programs that help them out of their self-caused poverty which cause them to become victims of outside factors and so removing their freewill. Did I get it right?

[Syne]

I knew you were lying when you said "I'm done".

Syne's night job..

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That's a Democrat. You know, your racist people. Decent people just drove them underground, cowering beneath their facade of impotently helping the blacks to, as LBJ said (disputed), "...have those niggers voting Democrat for 200 years." What's not disputed is this:

"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again." - LBJ

And you continue his racist tokenism scheme to this day.

Syne's racist narrative:

Black people have freewill. They can easily pull themselves out of poverty and a bad raising because they have freewill. If they don't do this it is because they are morally inferior. But helping them out with food stamps and welfare and affirmative action and affordable healthcare violates their freewill because they have no choice but to be on those programs. Therefore black people cause their own problems, and any help for those problems by outside agencies only victimizes them and makes them helpless addicts to the benefits they qualify for. Therefore, blacks cause their own problems, except when Democrats pass programs that help them out of their self-caused poverty which cause them to become victims of outside factors and so removing their freewill. Did I get it right?

Again, you're a racist for implying blacks don't have free will. And no, it's no easier for blacks to overcome a bad upbringing or poverty than anyone else. But anyone, of any color, is capable of overcoming these, as there are countless examples. You're the vile racist who keeps demanding blacks are especially incapable of doing so themselves. Imputing a lack in ability based solely on race is literally racist. And you are the ONLY one calling them "morally inferior".

I'm telling you that welfare programs incentivize bad choices. Incentive doesn't mean they are incapable of making good choices, only that ANYONE, of any race, will tend to make bad decisions with such perverse incentives...just as poor whites demonstrate. Democrats make the large majority of the black (and poor in general) problems. Black poverty was improving steadily until Democrats decided to help. Guess what, they haven't improved significantly since.

It is evil to convince people you are helping them when that "help" hasn't substantially improved their lives in 50 years. Before that "help" black poverty was improving faster than any other race and was well on its way to meeting the average...which is why LBJ was so desperate to throw them a useless bone. You're just too racist to risk looking at the actual results of Democrat policies still advocated today. You're too racist to even attempt to refute the facts. You're too racist to do anything but parrot the same feel good hashtag campaign rhetoric Democrats always have to cover for the abject failure of their fake attempts at "help".

[Magical Realist]

That's a Democrat. You know, your racist people.

Oh you mean the neo nazis and white nationalists that showed up at Charlottesville last summer with torches doing they're heil hitlers? Where David Duke was marching around spouting his racist hatred?
The ones we call the Alt RIGHT? No..that's you and your buddies. Own your ideology and your heritage you pathetic bigot.

It is evil to convince people you are helping them when that "help" hasn't substantially improved their lives in 50 years.

You mean with all that redlining and voter id laws and gerrymandering and racial profiling and discrimination you racists have been using against blacks all this time. No wonder they are still in poverty. It wasn't economic benefits that kept them poor and discriminated against. It was scum like you judging them as an inferior race who are too lazy or unmotivated to help themselves. If they could help themselves when they were in poverty, then they certainly could help themselves when they had help from the govt. They're not immoral slouches just looking for a handout like you preach they are. They just need the same headstart to the finish line that white kids get. The fact that you fight against helping them is a testament to your racist hatred. Keep them in poverty and crime ridden districts and then judge them as immoral for not pulling themselves out of it. You're disgusting..

[Syne]

That's a Democrat. You know, your racist people.

Oh you mean the neo nazis and white nationalists that showed up at Charlottesville last summer with torches doing they're heil hitlers? Where David Duke was marching around spouting his racist hatred?
The ones we call the Alt RIGHT? No..that's you and your buddies. Own your ideology and your heritage you pathetic bigot.

No, the actual picture you posted. It was a Democrat Klansman.

Where you STILL advocate covert racist Democrat policies from that era, I don't share any significant policies with the alt-right.
You're just so desperate to rub your ideology's tawdry racist past and present off on others...without anything but barefaced lies.

It is evil to convince people you are helping them when that "help" hasn't substantially improved their lives in 50 years.

You mean with all that redlining and voter id laws and gerrymandering and racial profiling and discrimination you racists have been using against blacks all this time. No wonder they are still in poverty. It wasn't economic benefits that kept them poor and discriminated against. It was scum like you judging them as an inferior race who are too lazy or unmotivated to help themselves. If they could help themselves when they were in poverty, then they certainly could help themselves when they had help from the govt. They're not immoral slouches just looking for a handout like you preach they are. They just need the same headstart to the finish line that white kids get. The fact that you fight against helping them is a testament to your racist hatred. Keep them in poverty and crime ridden districts and then judge them as immoral for not pulling themselves out of it. You're disgusting..

Profit motive is not inherently racist. Neither is election integrity. Gerrymandering is bipartisan and profiling is a matter of safety (unless you want to test walking around your local ghetto at night). You'll need to specify what discrimination you're talking about. You know, other than the discrimination of low expectations oozing out of slimy racists like you. You like simple answers that make you feel superior, no matter how they harm others. Blacks were doing better economically at the height of Jim Crow than after welfare initiatives.


"Why blacks are worse off now than ever in U.S. history
I argue there is no greater form of racism and bigotry than race-based “affirmative action.” It is promulgated by self-serving neo-Leninist liberals who believe themselves superior and who look upon blacks as being inferior. Their bigotry implies that blacks cannot succeed or accomplish anything worthwhile in life without their help.
...
Neo-Leninist liberals in their bigoted pomposity have orchestrated a pogrom of such magnitude as to destroy the sense of purpose and sense of true self-worth in the majority of blacks today. Neo-Leninists have successfully blinded many blacks to the importance of their embracing modernity.
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At the signing of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, 87 percent of black homes were married, two-parent homes, and 40 percent of blacks were business owners. But 50 years after the signing of the Civil Rights Act, 49 years after the introduction of the Great Society initiatives and 46 years after the introduction of race-based affirmative action, blacks disproportionately represent practically every undesirable category.

Unlike before bigoted neo-Leninist liberals convinced blacks that they couldn’t make it without their help, blacks today have the highest percentage of out-of-wedlock births and the highest percentage of abortions. They have the highest percentage of single-parent homes and the highest percentage of children being raised by a family member other than their biological parents. Blacks comprise the highest percentage of incarcerants, the highest percentage of high school dropouts, the highest percentage of college dropouts, the highest percentage living in poverty and the highest percentage of unemployed." - http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/why-blacks-ar...s-history/ (black author)


They thrived better despite discrimination and without any help. This is how I KNOW that they can "help themselves". It's been proven. They didn't need any "headstart (sic)" either. Your racist "help" incentivizes single parenthood, lousy schools, and joblessness...every predictor of lifelong/generational poverty. It's YOUR "help" that keeps "them in poverty and crime ridden districts". You're just far too racist to even bother to examine the results of your malevolent "help", much less learn enough to understand the successful history YOU deprived them of.


But just keep justifying your racist bullshit to yourself. No better way to keep your guilty alive. Just don't ever ask yourself why you feel guilty.

[Magical Realist]

Naww...how could YOU be alt-right when you quote from one of this biggest alt right publications online!

"The Washington Post describes WND's political lean as alt-right or far-right.[14][15][7][16] This view is shared by Michael Massing of the Columbia Journalism Review.[17] The Southern Poverty Law Center labels WorldNetDaily as an antigovernment extremist group."----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Now we know where you get your racist propaganda from. What next? Quotes from Mein Kampf? lol!

[Syne]

Naww...how could YOU be alt-right when you quote from one of this biggest alt right publications online!

"The Washington Post describes WND's political lean as alt-right or far-right.[14][15][7][16] This view is shared by Michael Massing of the Columbia Journalism Review.[17] The Southern Poverty Law Center labels WorldNetDaily as an antigovernment extremist group."----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Now we know where you get your racist propaganda from. What next? Quotes from Mein Kampf? lol!

So you're claiming that black author is a white supremacist? O_o

Lemme guess. He's not really black because he doesn't think like you believe good blacks should.  
Maybe instead of spouting genetic fallacies, you should actually try refuting the points made.

Just look at how hard you work to avoid your own obvious racism.

[Magical Realist]

Naww...how could YOU be alt-right when you quote from one of this biggest alt right publications online!

"The Washington Post describes WND's political lean as alt-right or far-right.[14][15][7][16] This view is shared by Michael Massing of the Columbia Journalism Review.[17] The Southern Poverty Law Center labels WorldNetDaily as an antigovernment extremist group."----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Now we know where you get your racist propaganda from. What next? Quotes from Mein Kampf? lol!

So you're claiming that black author is a white supremacist? O_o

Lemme guess. He's not really black because he doesn't think like you believe good blacks should.  
Maybe instead of spouting genetic fallacies, you should actually try refuting the points made.

Just look at how hard you work to avoid your own obvious racism.

Yeah there's lots of uncle toms out there. Nothing like a self-hating black man to make your racist cause look legit. "Hey he's black, he can't possibly be racist."

"WND (formerly WorldNetDaily or, as it was affectionately known to its fans, WingNutDaily or WhirledNutDaily) is a far-right website and publisher founded by the ridiculously impressively mustachioed Joseph Farah in 1997, as a project of his Western Center for Journalism.[1][2] WND espouses a fundamentalist Christian, creationist world view, with a healthy dose of jingoism. WND's coverage provides multiple sides of the issues: the very conservative viewpoint and the ultra-conservative viewpoint. WND makes Fox News look positively moonbatty in comparison. Managing Editor David Kupelian claims that WND "serves as your watchdog on government 365 days a year. We guard your priceless freedoms by aggressively exposing corruption and evil everywhere, and by championing good."[3]

While they present themselves as news, WND is a tabloid for radical right-wingers. Their publishing standards are rock-bottom, and they have run stories from extremely questionable sources on many, many occasions.[4][5] WND are one of the earliest and longest running publishers of Ann Coulter's insipid columns, as well as editorials from such august political analysts as Chuck Norris, Pat Boone, Andy Schlafly, and Charlie DanielsWikipedia's W.svg. The addition of editorials by disgraced baseball bigot John RockerWikipedia's W.svg[6] and an obsession with so-called "black mob violence" marked a shift from their less than subtle dog whistles into more overt racism.

The scary thing is, this bilge is actually slightly influential, with made-up bullshit from WND making its way out the mouths of wingnut congressmen and cable TV pundits far too often. Most notably, WND became ground zero for the Birther movement during the 2008 and 2012 Presidential Elections."----https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

[Syne]

Lemme guess. He's not really black because he doesn't think like you believe good blacks should.  

Yeah there's lots of uncle toms out there. Nothing like a self-hating black man to make your racist cause look legit. "Hey he's black, he can't possibly be racist."

You're so racist you can't even allow blacks to have the diversity of thought that whites do.


"In 1950, 17 percent of African-American children lived in a home with their mother but not their father. By 2010 that had increased to 50 percent. In 1965, only eight percent of childbirths in the Black community occurred out-of-wedlock. In 2010 that figure was 41 percent; and today, the out-of-wedlock childbirth in the Black community sits at an astonishing 72 percent. The number of African-American women married and living with their spouse was recorded as 53 percent in 1950. By 2010, it had dropped to 25 percent." - http://yourblackworld.net/2013/03/02/the...ort-shows/

Lemme guess. yourblackworld.net is alt-right?


"Black poverty fell quickly between 1959 and 1969, from 55.1 percent to 32.2 percent. But after that, the drop was slower and more uneven. In 2011, 27.6 percent of black households were in poverty — nearly triple the poverty rate for whites." - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...772ce88c21

What about the Washington Post?


"As of 1960, 22 percent of black children were raised with only one parent, usually the mother. Thirty years later, two-thirds of black children were being raised without a father present. What about ghetto riots, crimes in general and murder in particular? What about low levels of labor force participation and high levels of welfare dependency? None of those things was as bad in the first 100 years after slavery as they became in the wake of the policies and notions of the 1960s. To many on the left, the 1960s were the glory days of their movements, and for some the days of their youth as well. They have a heavy emotional investment and ego investment in the ideas, aspirations, and policies of the 1960s. It might never occur to many of them to check their beliefs against some hard facts about what actually happened after their ideas and policies were put into effect. It certainly would not be pleasant to admit, even to yourself, that after promising progress toward “social justice,” what you actually delivered was a retrogression toward barbarism." - http://www.nationalreview.com/article/42...mas-sowell

What, another "uncle tom" that doesn't behave like you think a good black should?
Do you think blacks only have the agency of a trained dog? You're a vile, putrescent racist.

[Magical Realist]

Thanks for establishing what my video already showed---black kids starting way behind white kids in our society, not born with the priveleges being white gives you as a matter of birthright. You're simply making my case for me. It's not their fault. And that's why they need all the help we can give them.

"Retrogression to barbarism"? Really? Is that how you see blacks today? As barbarians?

BTW, you are aware there were more changes in our society after the 60's than just civil rights. There was the rise of the underground drug industry, the sexual revolution, the rise of the "me" generation , the mass migration of whites to the suburbs, and the consequential decay of the inner cities along with the rise of poverty there. I see these factors as much more a handicap to black youth than welfare or food stamps ever could be. Don't you?

[Syne]

Thanks for establishing what my video already showed---black kids starting way behind white kids in our society, not born with the priveleges being white gives you as a matter of birthright. You're simply making my case for me. It's not their fault. And that's why they need all the help we can give them.

It's not their fault...nor is it the fault of the white kids. It's mostly the fault of racist Democrat policies of tokenism that are the same today as they were in the 60's, when they went into overdrive to destroy the black family. Your failure to refute, much less even address, those facts just demonstrates your blind ideological approval of black oppression.

"Retrogression to barbarism"? Really? Is that how you see blacks today? As barbarians?

That was written by Thomas Sowell. You know, a black man that doesn't behave how you think they should.
Try looking at violence rates in Democrat-run inner cities.

BTW, you are aware there were more changes in our society after the 60's than just civil rights. There was the rise of the underground drug industry, the sexual revolution, women's liberation, the mass migration of whites to the suburbs, and the consequential decay of the inner cities along with the rise of poverty there. I see these factors as much more a handicap to black youth than welfare or food stamps ever could be. Don't you?

No, that's just your persistent ignorance. You're just throwing out anything to see what sticks, without any argument whatsoever. That does zero to refute my argument, but that's not the point is it? You're just desperately justifying what are obviously harmful racist policies and attitudes.