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US Mexico Border Wall

#21
Syne Offline
(Feb 14, 2018 03:47 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: ok so show me what the most common income is

what is the mode income ?

show me the data that shows mode income

You're asking me because you can't find it yourself. You know why?
Because it is economically meaningless, and most people are smart enough to realize that.

It's like asking what the mode denomination in a currency is. The dime (ten cents) being the most common denomination of currency tell us zero about the economy.
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#22
Leigha Offline
I think drones or some type of sensor system would be more effective, and I can't imagine an actual, impenetrable wall. Don't see Mexico paying for this at all, I actually see NM, AZ and TX paying for it, somehow...some way. A lot of people believe that without immigration, the economy would tank. I doubt that. But, I'm all for immigration in the right way.
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#23
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Feb 14, 2018 03:53 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Feb 14, 2018 03:47 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: ok so show me what the most common income is

what is the mode income ?

show me the data that shows mode income

You're asking me because you can't find it yourself. You know why?
Because it is economically meaningless, and most people are smart enough to realize that.

It's like asking what the mode denomination in a currency is. The dime (ten cents) being the most common denomination of currency tell us zero about the economy.

you make a good point but i think its for the other side of your arguement.
money circulation is critical to any economy.
it drives business.
knowing what denomination of currency is most used or in majority distribution gives you an ability to gauge the black market & basic inflationary principals.
india is a good example.

congrats Narendra Modi

The irony of the debate is that most wishing to cover up the most common wage are the same people whom profit directly from taxation systems.
Government contracts political wages & bribes/Donations/Loby-money etc...

having excess low denomination coins(or notes) in the market drives up inflation(as you would know if you read on economics)



Quote:You're asking me because you can't find it yourself. You know why?
incorrect
i am asking you to see if you have any basic comprehension of the average living conditions of the average US working class family.

The Data its self is owned by private companys or requires heavy registration processes to aquire.
the collection and questioning is deliberately done to fudge the data to pander to rich elites and fool the average working class tax payer.
more soo my primary point is the deliberate fudging of data and scientific terms to give false information to the public to appease the lower middle class into thinking the poor hoards are further from their door step than they might wish to believe.

it panders directly to political fraud to obtain votes based on lies of the true finacial condition of the people and the nation.

much the same conversation if your talking about illegal immigrants stealing jobs and driving up crime and the cost of building a wall and whos going to pay for it, and if it is economically sound etc etc...

what jobs ?
how much are those job worth ?
what crime ?
how much is that crime worth ?
who is paying for the jobs ?
who is paying for the crime ?
how much will a wall cost ?
what will the average working class person and their children have to go without to pay for the wall  ?
if no one is going to pay for it before it is built where is the money coming from and is it real money ?
can you trust the information being given when there is no one handing over the money but the wall is being built ?
is it ok for the government to print more money(currency manipulation or quantitative easing?) to lend to its self to then take off the tax payer without the tax payer choosing that ?
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#24
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Feb 14, 2018 03:53 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Feb 14, 2018 03:47 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: ok so show me what the most common income is

what is the mode income ?

show me the data that shows mode income

You're asking me because you can't find it yourself. You know why?
Because it is economically meaningless, and most people are smart enough to realize that.

It's like asking what the mode denomination in a currency is. The dime (ten cents) being the most common denomination of currency tell us zero about the economy.

Quote:You're asking me because you can't find it yourself.
ok.... so im going to dig out the numbers for you to show you what levels of real income sustain the majority working population who drive the coal face of the busines model.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-US-citize...ng-of-2016
Quote:In 2014, 77.2 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.7 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.3 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.7 million had wages below the federal minimum.Jan 31, 201


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/retailer-target-pay-10-minimum-wage-employees/story?id=38494707
Quote:Reuters first reported that Target will raise the rate to $10 in May. The company last raised its minimum pay rate in April 2015 to $9 an hour. The federal minimum wage is [b]$7.25 per hour.[/b] Target, based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, has about 341,000 employees at nearly 1,800 stores nationwide.Apr 18, 2016
$360.00 per week

http://work.chron.com/much-enlisted-army...28798.html
Quote:Army Basic Pay for Enlisted Ranks. Enlisted soldiers in the Army have ranks from E-1 to E-9. In 2014, the initial monthly pay for the lowest rank, E-1, is $1,531.50 per month, although E-1s with less than four months of experience earn $1,416.30. Pay increases with each rank and with years of experience.
$375.00 per week

i will leave it there for now.
as you will see the bigest work force is retail, office clerk and military in the usa as a social identifier.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/offic...KO0,12.htm
Quote:The national average salary for a Office Clerk is $22,500 in United States. Filter by location to see Office Clerk salaries in your area.Feb 5, 2018
$430.00 per week

soo we can see the average mode working class wage is around 380.00 per week here.
times weeks in a year 52 = $19,760.00 per annum

soo the US average income is $380.00 per week

Federal minimum wage is $290.00 per week.
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#25
Syne Offline
What a joke.
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#26
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Feb 14, 2018 09:41 AM)Syne Wrote: What a joke.

Thanks, i will accept that as your version of "wow ! i really had no idea how out of touch i was with the average working family in the US"

your welcome.
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#27
Syne Offline
I'm sure you'll imagine whatever you like.
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