(Nov 16, 2017 08:38 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:Secular Sanity Wrote:Wow! I must have touched a little beta nerve.
Syne Wrote:LOL! So you think betas have a problem with jealous people? Says a lot about you.
Beta nerve fibers carry information related to touch.
No one here is dumb enough to fall for that lame excuse.
Quote:Secular Sanity Wrote:How could we be friends, if not your equal?
Syne Wrote:Who said you weren't an equal? God, I hope it wasn't your daddy.
That was in response to Nietzsche pointing out that we were not considered your equal. He mentioned the delusions of men, and how half of the human population was made weak, and devoid of any power, nor had any role in decision making.
And?
Quote:Syne Wrote:Any rational person knows that some women are indeed jealous, misandrist c*nts. They're c*nts for being jealous and man-hating. But I assume you think those are virtues.
I'm talking about those who you described as dangerous "to fall asleep next to", implied are so plentiful that avoiding would restrict a guy's sex life, and hatefully jealous.
Damn! You’re like a male version of Bells.
FYI, I wasn’t expressing hatred for men. I was trying to give them more credit than the current theories actually allow for.
Where exactly did you give this supposed credit?
Quote:I was thinking about the discussion that we had earlier regarding mate selection. The conversation between the anthropologists, Holly Dunsworth and Jerry Coyne.
She said that knowledgeable people aren't objecting to facts. They're objecting to biased story-telling and its annoying and harmful consequences. It's as if women don't exist at all in these tales except as objects for males to fight over or to fuck but it's nice to have choice!
She asked, why don’t other tales fit alongside the big-aggressive-males-take-all explanation for sexual dimorphism?
Yeah, Dunsworth (a sociologist) tries to refute Coyne (a biologist) with the typical sociological refrain of "it's more complex" without any feasible alternative hypothesis.
“it’s not that Jerry Coyne’s facts aren’t necessarily facts, or whatever. It’s that this point of view is too simple and is obviously biased toward some stories, ignoring others. And this particular one he shares…has been the same old story for a long long time.” - Holly Dunsworth
Anyone should be able to notice that terrestrial species are more capable of physical domination (so sexual selection does favor size), but aerial and aquatic species are less susceptible to physical domination (so sexual selection favors other adaptations). Seems Dunsworth's ignorance is the only one that's "too simple".
Quote:Not All Critiques of Evolutionary Psychology Are Created Equal
The Ideological Opposition to Biological Truth
If given the opportunity, we would obviously choose more cooperative mates. If we continued to choose more aggressive mates, it would seemly reduce the opportunity for mate selection itself. In other words, this idea that females are to blame for male aggression seems like horseshit.
Where is there any evidence that women would choose cooperative mates (aside from lesbians and spinsters)? They do have the opportunity, you know.
Quote:I was thinking that mate choice and male-male competition would be in complete opposition to one another. Why would we even have a choice in the matter if you’ve always had the power to manipulate and control our reproductive physiology and behavior?
Contraceptives are egalitarian now days. So the only control of reproduction is the woman's unilateral prerogative for abortion.
But yes, it's trivial that stronger males did dominate in human evolution.