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Google employee anti-diversity memo causes row

#1
RainbowUnicorn Offline
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40845288

Quote:It argues that "the abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don't see equal representation of women in tech and leadership".

such a claim would need to be validated by the nature of biology dominating intellectual ability as a normative process.
equally this would define homosexual men, women, bisexual & hermaphrodite as equally valid authority dominant positions.

however i suspect as usual this type of language is a mid life crisis attempting to rationalise its own need for self actualisation & conformity as the drive for change kicks in and he/they feel propelled to act.

full article on Gizmondo
little bit heavy(slow/lots of crap on the page) to load.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/08/exclu...at-google/



if women wanted equality why dont they ask men to give it to them ?
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#2
C C Offline
Science totally debunks that shocking manifesto that got a Google employee fired
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-google-emp...he-s-wrong

EXCERPT: A Google engineer has been fired after writing a memo asserting that biological differences between men and women are responsible for the tech industry's gender gap. "We need to stop assuming that gender gaps imply sexism," James Damore wrote in the manifesto, which was first reported by Vice's Motherboard and later released in full by Gizmodo.

The 10-page document criticises Google initiatives aimed at increasing gender and racial diversity, and argues that Google should focus more on "ideological diversity" to make conservatives more comfortable in the company's work environment. In response, Google CEO Sundar Pichai cut his vacation short and wrote a memo criticising Damore's manifesto for advancing harmful gender stereotypes. "To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK," Pichai wrote.

Experts have been quick to cite numerous scientific meta-analyses of differences between the sexes, most of which suggest that men and women are alike in terms of personality and cognitive ability. Here are the specific claims Damore made in his manifesto, and the real science behind them....
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#3
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Aug 9, 2017 06:27 AM)C C Wrote: Science totally debunks that shocking manifesto that got a Google employee fired
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-google-emp...he-s-wrong

EXCERPT: A Google engineer has been fired after writing a memo asserting that biological differences between men and women are responsible for the tech industry's gender gap. "We need to stop assuming that gender gaps imply sexism," James Damore wrote in the manifesto, which was first reported by Vice's Motherboard and later released in full by Gizmodo.

The 10-page document criticises Google initiatives aimed at increasing gender and racial diversity, and argues that Google should focus more on "ideological diversity" to make conservatives more comfortable in the company's work environment. In response, Google CEO Sundar Pichai cut his vacation short and wrote a memo criticising Damore's manifesto for advancing harmful gender stereotypes. "To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK," Pichai wrote.

Experts have been quick to cite numerous scientific meta-analyses of differences between the sexes, most of which suggest that men and women are alike in terms of personality and cognitive ability. Here are the specific claims Damore made in his manifesto, and the real science behind them....

it would not surprise me if he was paid to publish that paper.

is it possible for a sociopath with borderline narcissistic personality disorder to make it all the way through university to that level ?
i think it would be possible. is he one ? dont know.(early warning signs of 1st schizophrenia attack ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE)
is it possible for a creationist to make it all the way through to that level ? probably however they would probably need to be hiding their opinions in their work to fool people who would otherwise not trust them as they would be effectively living a life of borderline personality disorder and have hidden agendas which would potentially damage the university and those who they worked under and with.

is he an anti-animist ? neo-material-athiest ? possibly
the desire to scientifically over simplify things may be benificial when applying a design to  your garden, but when you are splicing someones embryo with a new gene therapy to cure osteoparosis...
no thanks ! the research community cant afford to put that many years of research and millions in funding at risk to someone who is unable to seperate their ideological goal from their main personal driving self-actualisation.

err-go this puts it quite well if you apply it to him & if he would be worth handing critical research & the only money left for research into ... let say breast cancer
Quote:A 2000 review of 10 studies related to gender differences in empathy also suggests men and women don't have innate differences in this area. The researchers found that such distinctions were only present in situations where the subjects were "aware that they are being evaluated on an empathy-relevant dimension" or in which "empathy-relevant gender-role expectations or obligations are made salient."

In other words, differences had to do with how people responded to expectations of them, not any inherent abilities.

i would say "na-ah!" because he is driving himself and his scientific process from a position that is unable to simply work with the facts without putting bias in it.
and... the other word down the line in science for bias is called millions of dead or sick people.
thats just the cold hard financial truth to it.
as for him, he is probably going through some type of regresive childhood issues which have not been addressed profesionally.
unfortunate that it has wasted soo many years of opportunities that could have gone to someone else.

profesionally, ethically & scientifically his memo was his resignation letter or a statement of a mental breakdown in process.
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#4
C C Offline
The roller coaster ride of the psycho-social / biological sciences continues...

No, the Google manifesto isn’t sexist or anti-diversity. It’s science
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion...e35903359/

EXCERPT: By now, most of us have heard about Google's so-called "anti-diversity" manifesto and how James Damore, the engineer who wrote it, has been fired from his job. Titled Google's Ideological Echo Chamber, Mr. Damore called out the current PC culture, saying the gender gap in Google's diversity was not due to discrimination, but inherent differences in what men and women find interesting. Danielle Brown, Google's newly appointed vice-president for diversity, integrity and governance, accused the memo of advancing "incorrect assumptions about gender," and Mr. Damore confirmed last night he was fired for "perpetuating gender stereotypes." Despite how it's been portrayed, the memo was fair and factually accurate. Scientific studies have confirmed sex differences in the brain that lead to differences in our interests and behaviour....



Google Manifesto: Does Biology Explain Gender Disparities in Tech?
https://www.livescience.com/60079-biolog...women.html

EXCERPT: [...] But what does science have to say about the biological differences between men and women, and how do they affect the gender gap in tech? "It would be foolish to say there are no biological differences between men and women," said Margaret McCarthy, a neuroscientist at the University of Maryland who studies gender differences in the brain. "Sex is the most potent of all biological variables." However, pinning the lack of women in tech to biological differences is on much shakier ground, when socialization or sexism are much likelier explanations, several experts told Live Science....

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#5
Zinjanthropos Online
I may have mentioned this previous. I'm a certified basketball official. I remember being at a Christian High school getting ready to referee a boy's game with a female official. I saw the visiting team huddle and a representative came over to me and asked if I could find another referee to replace my female partner. Apparently their particular brand of religion did not recognize women as authority figures. I said something like I could but the only person available on short notice was an atheist and that the woman I was to referee with was a God fearing Christian mother of which each kid on the floor had to listen to at one time. Eventually they caved in and the game went on as scheduled.

What's the point? Boys are being taught this stuff at school and at home by men who were taught just the same. Others enjoy the superiority in size and strength and some treat women like property. Many times these situations lead to more than just a firing.
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#6
Syne Offline
(Aug 9, 2017 06:27 AM)C C Wrote: Science totally debunks that shocking manifesto that got a Google employee fired
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-google-emp...he-s-wrong

EXCERPT: A Google engineer has been fired after writing a memo asserting that biological differences between men and women are responsible for the tech industry's gender gap. "We need to stop assuming that gender gaps imply sexism," James Damore wrote in the manifesto, which was first reported by Vice's Motherboard and later released in full by Gizmodo.

The 10-page document criticises Google initiatives aimed at increasing gender and racial diversity, and argues that Google should focus more on "ideological diversity" to make conservatives more comfortable in the company's work environment. In response, Google CEO Sundar Pichai cut his vacation short and wrote a memo criticising Damore's manifesto for advancing harmful gender stereotypes. "To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK," Pichai wrote.

Experts have been quick to cite numerous scientific meta-analyses of differences between the sexes, most of which suggest that men and women are alike in terms of personality and cognitive ability. Here are the specific claims Damore made in his manifesto, and the real science behind them....

Notice how ALL of the "science" cited in the article are either behind a pay wall or lack any details of the data used. One or two are cited several times...often indicating cherry-picking in a dearth of agreeable sources.
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