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Grenfell Tower Fire (London England)

#31
confused2 Offline
Last night I found an article which I forgot to link to.
This is from memory (so not reliable).
With the change to lighter regulation (year?) the testing of cladding was subbed out to consultants of which two were named. To save money it was agreed by all parties that simulations would be adequate where any change was deemed to be of no consequence. Having set a precedent for a particular material to be used in a particular way (with no actual test having taken place) it would become established practice and the material could be used in any similar situation without tests or simulations.
If my memory of the article (and the article itself) is substantially correct then responsibility falls on two guys in particular and (in fairness) the system as a whole.
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#32
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jul 1, 2017 06:44 PM)confused2 Wrote: Last night I found an article which I forgot to link to.
This is from memory (so not reliable).
With the change to lighter regulation (year?) the testing of cladding was subbed out to consultants of which two were named. To save money it was agreed by all parties that simulations would be adequate where any change was deemed to be of no consequence. Having set a precedent for a particular material to be used in a particular way (with no actual test having taken place) it would become established practice and the material could be used in any similar situation without tests or simulations.
If my memory of the article (and the article itself) is substantially correct then responsibility falls on two guys in particular and (in fairness)  the system as a whole.

there is a government manager who is responsible for managing the job through to its completion.
they are hiding.
possibly run off to some other country already.

there is the building certiffiers who hold a licence to license the building like a mechanic must be licensed to certify a car is safe to drive the kids to school in.
they are ducking and weaving and trying to avoid all media.

there is the company that did the work. they are all supposed to be registered builders who are supposed to know the code regulations and what is up to code and what is not.
they will have a manager who is supposed to know
that company will have an owner who is supposed to know.

there will be a local council manager and a national government manager.

all of those people including the company who sold the cladding to them and including all those who voted on it in the council should be facing criminal charges.

no differet to if they were driving a school bus full of kids and decided to start texting on their cell phone then crashed and killed all the kids.
no different.
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#33
confused2 Offline
Quote:no differet to if they were driving a school bus full of kids and decided to start texting on their cell phone then crashed and killed all the kids. no different.
I was going to add stuff but I think RainbowUnicorn has summed it up.
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#34
Zinjanthropos Offline
I would have to believe criminal charges will result from the investigation. Any suggestion that someone in charge knew safety was being compromised, or was even bribed for that matter, is going down. This event is so tragic that I'm not even sure if political clout can save the individual(s) responsible. No scapegoats here, it's too big.
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