Dec 29, 2016 08:58 PM
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It's often contended that a scientific mindset is not dogmatic or as wrapped-up in universals and absolute decrees as religions traditions, schools of thought, etc. That it acknowledges a mutable future and can consider and investigate contingent events and particular circumstances on the actual scene without accepting / rejecting them a priori on the basis of global-spanning preset beliefs and information (established preconceptions, guiding explanatory frameworks, and rules / laws). IOW, capable of not allowing general principles and general knowledge to evaluate or pass judgement on a specific _X_ while sitting distantly in an armchair, so to speak.
However, the reaction to the following case is a reminder that when skepticism is warranted (via the aforementioned prescriptive tools, lab approved abstractions, and results of similar accounts in the past), such a non-ideological attitude is rarely exercised. Practical and financial considerations can be blamed as well...
Steven Weinberg: "At any one moment one is presented with a wide variety of innovative ideas that might be followed up: not only astrology and such, but many ideas much closer to the main stream of science, and others that are squarely within the scope of modern scientific research. It does no good to say that all these ideas must be thoroughly tested; there is simply no time. [...] Even if I dropped everything else in my life, I could not begin to give all of these ideas a fair hearing." --Dreams of a Final Theory: The Scientist's Search for the Ultimate Laws of Nature
A couple of days ago the PBS NEWS HOUR covered the power from water invention of Greek physicist Petros Zografos. After receiving a lot of flak about promoting a crank, it's rumored that the video report became scarce in official places and they posted a kind of apology later. In their defense, though, they did feature Jacob Trier Frederiksen (of the Niels Bohr Institute) in the segment expressing criticism and extreme doubt about the device. Which various disparaging comments seemed to selectively forget / omit reference to in the course of venting on the "violations of __".
In addition to PBS, the "The Civil Engineer" gave Petros Zografos minor attention in its news center back in either October of 2016 or 2015: Greek Invention Promises Inexhaustible Energy From Water
The News Hour report did indeed have Lampis Tomasis (supposedly an engineer) expressing conviction about the device after examining it. With a vague mention in the later misgivings of the Editor's Note about "Despite a team of Greek scientists praising the research...". But aside from that, there doesn't seem to be sources available in the Anglophone world for either verifying or disproving the claim that the "Union of Greek Physicists" (SCP) has given some kind of blessing to the project (including that such an organization exists). Even in Greece, it's possible that the "evidence" for this might only be confined to affiliates of the "Yellow Press" (speaks for itself) and the inventor's own blog.
Inexhaustible water power promising Greek invention
http://petrosz.blogspot.com/2016_05_01_archive.html
EXCERPT: A device that generates clean electricity from water and high frequencies developed by inventor Peter Painter. The Union of Greek Physicists (SCP), at the initiative of Vice-Ms. Panagiotis ivory, afternoon Thursday 29 October organized a special scientific conference for the presentation of the invention on-site Aegean College (17 Panepistimiou, Athens). The meeting considered that paved the way of dialogue for the establishment and acceptance of new technology. The general belief of the scientists is that the invention is a particularly interesting global innovation, which should "embrace" and to promote.
Characteristically, Peter Painter answered all the questions at the end of the "besieged speech" by teachers, who showed great interest in the device. Questions were also raised about the Social Dimension of invention and whether it can contribute to addressing the energy problem of Greece.
The next ten days, the Association of Physicists will set up a special committee composed of five distinguished scientists who will undertake to assess and document the device's operating principle and control the outputs. Then will follow publication / exhibition in prestigious Greek and international journals where the results of the evaluation will be presented.
The entire video of the scientific conference of the NEB in Aegean College from the "Jungle": -How Technology works (as reported in the journal «Physics»): Method and electrolyser of water and production of hydrogen as a fuel with the use of high frequency combination that produced by sinusoidal oscillators, which when mixed, assisted and combined manage to break down water into its constituent elements (hydrogen and oxygen) through the phenomenon of resonance. With appropriate pace and auxiliary processing armor introduced in primary frequencies produced by the sine wave oscillators, secondary frequencies jointly shape the structure of the original frequencies, to achieve an appropriate combination of frequency e circuit corresponding (comprised of buffer, mixer, modulators, digital controllers frequency directional coupler, multipliers and linear amplifiers). By proper coordination of these frequencies is obtained by the vibration of water molecules and their degradation in the gases hydrogen and oxygen. These gases are then separated by special screening drivers and the produced hydrogen is passed through the corresponding specific binding in the power generation mechanism to be used as fuel.
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Water can power everything you own!
https://m.facebook.com/ScienceAlert/post...1055428091
EXCERPT: The research team, under the natural [inventor/ team leader] Petros Zografos, has been trying for many years to promote this device and make it available to the Greek state, but even after concrete evidence for its functionality, signed by the Ministry of Defense and foreign independent scientists, always something goes "wrong" and the patent remains in the drawers and in scientists' laboratories.
(A Greek inventor, Πέτρος Ζωγράφος aka: Petros Zografos (or translated into English, using Google Translate: Peter Painter/ Peter Campus) has created a unique device that generates abundant electricity, and hydrogen using only water as the fuel source.
A detailed description of the device is given in a couple of articles, written by Sotiris Papadelos, published on linkedin . com, dated: January 26, 2016, titled: "A breakthrough in Radiowave Electrolysis (Palmolysis) for Pure Hydrogen Production and direct energy conversion", and "Converting Hydrogen To Electricity Directly through Palmolysis". (2)(3)
Mr. Zografos gave multiple live presentations of the device, to the "Yellow Press" tv show in Zougla TV's studio. Zougla TV or (in English) "Jungle TV" is a Greek Internet only TV channel. The channel provides mainly political oriented talk programs. It is dedicated to news, revelations, political scandals, and more.
Vice president of the Union of Greek Physicists, Panagiotis ivory, in a telephone interview on the ["Yellow Press" tv] show, said that the Union has already made the first patent vesting approaches, and recalled that the Hellenic Physical Society issued two findings, according with which this production method is a 'real innovation at the international level and is a novel technology that achieves its purpose", which have been sent and read by thousands of scientists.
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Other Links:
Greek Invention Promises Inexhaustible Energy From Water
http://efiedcp.com/blog/hho-kit-news/gre...from-water
Greek Invention Promises Inexhaustible Energy From Water
http://efiedcp.com/blog/hho-kit-news/gre...from-water
Petros ZOGRAFOS: Frequency Electrolysis
http://rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectroly...rifos.html
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TRANSCRIPT (may not be available anywhere someday, so...)
Power from Tap Water
PBS News Hour just ran this report on an inventor who wants to extract the power from H20:
HARI SREENIVASAN: Imagine a mini power supply in your house or car that made it possible for you to be off the grid. What if that source of energy was totally clean and powered by simple tap water?
Well, a Greek scientist claims to have created a machine that converts water into power.
As part of our occasional innovation series, special correspondent Malcolm Brabant traveled to the inventor`s island home.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Physicist Petros Zografos spent 30 years trying to work out how, using minimal energy, he could break down the water molecule, H20, into its component parts, hydrogen and oxygen. Now he thinks he`s cracked it, with this, his mini power station, which he hopes will help reverse global pollution.
PETROS ZOGRAFOS, Physicist (through translator): Since I have children and grandchildren — my son has just made me a grandfather — I cannot go on watching this planet being so violently abused.
MALCOLM BRABANT: George Schoell, from Southern Germany, whose company makes solar panels, is interested in helping develop and market the invention. He headed out of Athens for a nearby Greek island to inspect it for the first time.
GEORGE SCHOELL, Businessman: For the people, this would be exactly what they want, exactly what they can use at home. But for the big energy suppliers, this will be a problem, because if anyone takes his own energy, no one will need the grid anymore.
MALCOLM BRABANT: In the inventor`s modest home, there was a last-minute technical briefing beneath a bust of Zeus, the ancient Greek god who dispensed power through thunderbolts.
Then colleague Pantelis Kotsianis gave a demonstration.
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS, Scientist: We have no wires, no external wires from the grid connected to the system, stand-alone, and reconnect later on to the mains, get off the grid, and then we will put the water from the glass into this tube, and within 40 seconds, we will have the power to power the whole house.
Right now, we`re off the grid. We have turned off the switch. We will prove that this connector has no power at all. Look, there`s no power on this connector.
So I`m putting some water slowly right now, and we just connect the mains right now to the machine. And, basically, you can just — well, basically can run the whole house and can turn on the TV and anything else you want right now.
MAN: How much power do you have? How much power do you have?
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS: We`re producing right now? It`s about 800 watts.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Which was enough to enable the inventor`s wife to prepare lunch. The average American house needs about 30,000 watts per hour.
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS: It`s a very brand-new technology, never existed before. We`re using frequencies. And with frequencies, you don`t have to use high power. You don`t need to use excessive energy, or really any energy at all, in order to get the fuel that you need, hydrogen.
Every rock or every bridge has a very specific resonance. When you vibrate a system at the specific frequency, which is the system`s frequency, that system would break. So, you don`t need force to do that.
MALCOLM BRABANT: It`s similar to the biblical story of trumpets destroying the walls of Jericho. This is the Acropolis in Athens, not Jericho, but the temples date from the same era.
It wasn`t a religious miracle that brought down Jericho`s walls, but sound waves from the trumpets. The inventor claims water can be unlocked in the same way.
There are three stages to this machine. The first is motion. The act of pouring of the water generates energy to start the resonance process. The second is oscillation. A new compound created by the inventor helps produce the hydrogen. The third is the exhaust system, where the only byproduct is room-temperature water vapor.
Despite having rich potential for renewal energy, Greece is heavily dependent upon fossil fuel. Much of its electricity comes from lignite, a peat-like substance, transported along conveyor belts from vast open cast mines.
Lignite is one of the world`s most polluting fuels, and, according to environmentalists, these plants are responsible for ailments, such as cancer, that cost the Greek health service up to $4 billion a year.
PETROS ZOGRAFOS (through translator): The sea used to provide us with all the fish we needed, but now I can see that life is diminishing on the planet, and it`s human beings are responsible for this. So I would really like this invention to be made available worldwide, so that it may halt further destruction of the planet as much as possible.
MALCOLM BRABANT: The science employed by Zografos has been validated by a committee of Greek physicists. Independent engineer Lampis Tomasis was a skeptic, but is now a believer.
LAMPIS TOMASIS, Engineer: I used spectrum analyzers. I used analyzers for the exhaust fumes. I used oscilloscopes and the other instruments as well. And I am convinced now that the instrument is working perfectly, doesn`t produce any dirt to the environment, and the only product produced is hydrogen, which is very clean for the environment.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Two hours after the machine was started, it needed topping up.
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS: We added some fuel to our system, so we depleted it with running everything in the house.
MALCOLM BRABANT: The team behind this project has rejected several multimillion-dollar offers to the rights to the invention, because they want to control what happens to it.
But they are fairly optimistic, and they are talking in terms of this possibly being the start of a new age. But there has to be a word of caution, because there have been several great Greek innovations in the past that have died at birth. They have been strangled by red tape and vested interests.
To obtain an independent assessment, we went to the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, named after one of the most important contributors to modern physics and the atomic age.
JACOB TRIER FREDERIKSEN, Niels Bohr Institute: I`m extremely skeptical of the way that it allegedly is functioning. I seriously doubt that there is excess energy from this device.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Jacob Frederiksen says the invention would be fantastic, if true. But first, he says, the science must be subjected to peer review, and that other experts need to be able to reproduce the results.
He believes that using frequencies to split hydrogen and oxygen is valid, but doubts the process can yield sufficient extra power.
JACOB TRIER FREDERIKSEN: Let`s assume we have this huge molecule of water, right, oxygen and hydrogen bound together in the water molecule. In order to split this, you really need to pull it apart, I mean, split these atoms apart. Now you have spent quite a lot of energy to split them. You can regain part of that energy by combining them by combustion processes.
You already spent the energy to split it, and you only get part of that energy back when you recombine it by burning the hydrogen. And that difference will not be a positive one.
MALCOLM BRABANT: In response, the Greeks say they will happily agree to a peer review once they have obtained a worldwide patent. They also insist their system doesn`t conform to the standard rules of electrolysis, or separating of hydrogen and oxygen.
George Schoell, the German businessman, headed towards home, satisfied with the Greeks` claims that their process uses minimal energy and is highly efficient. He predicted that, if all went well, mini home power stations could go into production within a year.
GEORGE SCHOELL: I was really kind of — about this invention, and it was 100 — or over 100 percent fulfilled. And I`m really satisfied that I did this trip, because I didn`t expect that the machine runs as we have seen as it runs.
PETROS ZOGRAFOS (through translator): I want this invention to spread as far as possible, to the last village in Africa, where the children don`t have electric light to read and study by.
MALCOLM BRABANT: The next test for Petros Zografos and his team will be to build a 200-kilowatt machine, about the size of two fridges, to light up a small Greek island fueled by the surrounding water. He hopes to stage a trial within the next six months.
For the “PBS NewsHour,” I`m Malcolm Brabant in Greece.
The post Power from Tap Water appeared first on Living Off the Grid: Free Yourself.
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Editor’s note: Dec. 27 story on Greek inventor and clean energy
December 28, 2016 at 3:13 PM EST
[Sorry, the video for this story has expired, but you can still read the transcript below.]
Editor’s note: There have been questions raised concerning our report that aired on Dec. 27, 2016 about a Greek inventor who is developing a device that purports to turn water into power without requiring additional energy. Despite a team of Greek scientists praising the research, and the inclusion of an independent scientist dubious of the work, the NewsHour acknowledges that our reporting of this segment should have been more skeptical. Our reporting and research should always ask more questions and seek greater insight. We are examining each step in our process, and we apologize to our audience for the lapses in this report. The PBS NewsHour is dedicated to presenting clear and thorough reporting on developments in science and technology, and we will be following up with more reporting on the important subject of clean energy as soon as possible.
www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/regarding-story-air-tonight-greek-invention/
However, the reaction to the following case is a reminder that when skepticism is warranted (via the aforementioned prescriptive tools, lab approved abstractions, and results of similar accounts in the past), such a non-ideological attitude is rarely exercised. Practical and financial considerations can be blamed as well...
Steven Weinberg: "At any one moment one is presented with a wide variety of innovative ideas that might be followed up: not only astrology and such, but many ideas much closer to the main stream of science, and others that are squarely within the scope of modern scientific research. It does no good to say that all these ideas must be thoroughly tested; there is simply no time. [...] Even if I dropped everything else in my life, I could not begin to give all of these ideas a fair hearing." --Dreams of a Final Theory: The Scientist's Search for the Ultimate Laws of Nature
A couple of days ago the PBS NEWS HOUR covered the power from water invention of Greek physicist Petros Zografos. After receiving a lot of flak about promoting a crank, it's rumored that the video report became scarce in official places and they posted a kind of apology later. In their defense, though, they did feature Jacob Trier Frederiksen (of the Niels Bohr Institute) in the segment expressing criticism and extreme doubt about the device. Which various disparaging comments seemed to selectively forget / omit reference to in the course of venting on the "violations of __".
In addition to PBS, the "The Civil Engineer" gave Petros Zografos minor attention in its news center back in either October of 2016 or 2015: Greek Invention Promises Inexhaustible Energy From Water
The News Hour report did indeed have Lampis Tomasis (supposedly an engineer) expressing conviction about the device after examining it. With a vague mention in the later misgivings of the Editor's Note about "Despite a team of Greek scientists praising the research...". But aside from that, there doesn't seem to be sources available in the Anglophone world for either verifying or disproving the claim that the "Union of Greek Physicists" (SCP) has given some kind of blessing to the project (including that such an organization exists). Even in Greece, it's possible that the "evidence" for this might only be confined to affiliates of the "Yellow Press" (speaks for itself) and the inventor's own blog.
Inexhaustible water power promising Greek invention
http://petrosz.blogspot.com/2016_05_01_archive.html
EXCERPT: A device that generates clean electricity from water and high frequencies developed by inventor Peter Painter. The Union of Greek Physicists (SCP), at the initiative of Vice-Ms. Panagiotis ivory, afternoon Thursday 29 October organized a special scientific conference for the presentation of the invention on-site Aegean College (17 Panepistimiou, Athens). The meeting considered that paved the way of dialogue for the establishment and acceptance of new technology. The general belief of the scientists is that the invention is a particularly interesting global innovation, which should "embrace" and to promote.
Characteristically, Peter Painter answered all the questions at the end of the "besieged speech" by teachers, who showed great interest in the device. Questions were also raised about the Social Dimension of invention and whether it can contribute to addressing the energy problem of Greece.
The next ten days, the Association of Physicists will set up a special committee composed of five distinguished scientists who will undertake to assess and document the device's operating principle and control the outputs. Then will follow publication / exhibition in prestigious Greek and international journals where the results of the evaluation will be presented.
The entire video of the scientific conference of the NEB in Aegean College from the "Jungle": -How Technology works (as reported in the journal «Physics»): Method and electrolyser of water and production of hydrogen as a fuel with the use of high frequency combination that produced by sinusoidal oscillators, which when mixed, assisted and combined manage to break down water into its constituent elements (hydrogen and oxygen) through the phenomenon of resonance. With appropriate pace and auxiliary processing armor introduced in primary frequencies produced by the sine wave oscillators, secondary frequencies jointly shape the structure of the original frequencies, to achieve an appropriate combination of frequency e circuit corresponding (comprised of buffer, mixer, modulators, digital controllers frequency directional coupler, multipliers and linear amplifiers). By proper coordination of these frequencies is obtained by the vibration of water molecules and their degradation in the gases hydrogen and oxygen. These gases are then separated by special screening drivers and the produced hydrogen is passed through the corresponding specific binding in the power generation mechanism to be used as fuel.
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Water can power everything you own!
https://m.facebook.com/ScienceAlert/post...1055428091
EXCERPT: The research team, under the natural [inventor/ team leader] Petros Zografos, has been trying for many years to promote this device and make it available to the Greek state, but even after concrete evidence for its functionality, signed by the Ministry of Defense and foreign independent scientists, always something goes "wrong" and the patent remains in the drawers and in scientists' laboratories.
(A Greek inventor, Πέτρος Ζωγράφος aka: Petros Zografos (or translated into English, using Google Translate: Peter Painter/ Peter Campus) has created a unique device that generates abundant electricity, and hydrogen using only water as the fuel source.
A detailed description of the device is given in a couple of articles, written by Sotiris Papadelos, published on linkedin . com, dated: January 26, 2016, titled: "A breakthrough in Radiowave Electrolysis (Palmolysis) for Pure Hydrogen Production and direct energy conversion", and "Converting Hydrogen To Electricity Directly through Palmolysis". (2)(3)
Mr. Zografos gave multiple live presentations of the device, to the "Yellow Press" tv show in Zougla TV's studio. Zougla TV or (in English) "Jungle TV" is a Greek Internet only TV channel. The channel provides mainly political oriented talk programs. It is dedicated to news, revelations, political scandals, and more.
Vice president of the Union of Greek Physicists, Panagiotis ivory, in a telephone interview on the ["Yellow Press" tv] show, said that the Union has already made the first patent vesting approaches, and recalled that the Hellenic Physical Society issued two findings, according with which this production method is a 'real innovation at the international level and is a novel technology that achieves its purpose", which have been sent and read by thousands of scientists.
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Other Links:
Greek Invention Promises Inexhaustible Energy From Water
http://efiedcp.com/blog/hho-kit-news/gre...from-water
Greek Invention Promises Inexhaustible Energy From Water
http://efiedcp.com/blog/hho-kit-news/gre...from-water
Petros ZOGRAFOS: Frequency Electrolysis
http://rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectroly...rifos.html
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TRANSCRIPT (may not be available anywhere someday, so...)
Power from Tap Water
PBS News Hour just ran this report on an inventor who wants to extract the power from H20:
HARI SREENIVASAN: Imagine a mini power supply in your house or car that made it possible for you to be off the grid. What if that source of energy was totally clean and powered by simple tap water?
Well, a Greek scientist claims to have created a machine that converts water into power.
As part of our occasional innovation series, special correspondent Malcolm Brabant traveled to the inventor`s island home.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Physicist Petros Zografos spent 30 years trying to work out how, using minimal energy, he could break down the water molecule, H20, into its component parts, hydrogen and oxygen. Now he thinks he`s cracked it, with this, his mini power station, which he hopes will help reverse global pollution.
PETROS ZOGRAFOS, Physicist (through translator): Since I have children and grandchildren — my son has just made me a grandfather — I cannot go on watching this planet being so violently abused.
MALCOLM BRABANT: George Schoell, from Southern Germany, whose company makes solar panels, is interested in helping develop and market the invention. He headed out of Athens for a nearby Greek island to inspect it for the first time.
GEORGE SCHOELL, Businessman: For the people, this would be exactly what they want, exactly what they can use at home. But for the big energy suppliers, this will be a problem, because if anyone takes his own energy, no one will need the grid anymore.
MALCOLM BRABANT: In the inventor`s modest home, there was a last-minute technical briefing beneath a bust of Zeus, the ancient Greek god who dispensed power through thunderbolts.
Then colleague Pantelis Kotsianis gave a demonstration.
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS, Scientist: We have no wires, no external wires from the grid connected to the system, stand-alone, and reconnect later on to the mains, get off the grid, and then we will put the water from the glass into this tube, and within 40 seconds, we will have the power to power the whole house.
Right now, we`re off the grid. We have turned off the switch. We will prove that this connector has no power at all. Look, there`s no power on this connector.
So I`m putting some water slowly right now, and we just connect the mains right now to the machine. And, basically, you can just — well, basically can run the whole house and can turn on the TV and anything else you want right now.
MAN: How much power do you have? How much power do you have?
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS: We`re producing right now? It`s about 800 watts.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Which was enough to enable the inventor`s wife to prepare lunch. The average American house needs about 30,000 watts per hour.
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS: It`s a very brand-new technology, never existed before. We`re using frequencies. And with frequencies, you don`t have to use high power. You don`t need to use excessive energy, or really any energy at all, in order to get the fuel that you need, hydrogen.
Every rock or every bridge has a very specific resonance. When you vibrate a system at the specific frequency, which is the system`s frequency, that system would break. So, you don`t need force to do that.
MALCOLM BRABANT: It`s similar to the biblical story of trumpets destroying the walls of Jericho. This is the Acropolis in Athens, not Jericho, but the temples date from the same era.
It wasn`t a religious miracle that brought down Jericho`s walls, but sound waves from the trumpets. The inventor claims water can be unlocked in the same way.
There are three stages to this machine. The first is motion. The act of pouring of the water generates energy to start the resonance process. The second is oscillation. A new compound created by the inventor helps produce the hydrogen. The third is the exhaust system, where the only byproduct is room-temperature water vapor.
Despite having rich potential for renewal energy, Greece is heavily dependent upon fossil fuel. Much of its electricity comes from lignite, a peat-like substance, transported along conveyor belts from vast open cast mines.
Lignite is one of the world`s most polluting fuels, and, according to environmentalists, these plants are responsible for ailments, such as cancer, that cost the Greek health service up to $4 billion a year.
PETROS ZOGRAFOS (through translator): The sea used to provide us with all the fish we needed, but now I can see that life is diminishing on the planet, and it`s human beings are responsible for this. So I would really like this invention to be made available worldwide, so that it may halt further destruction of the planet as much as possible.
MALCOLM BRABANT: The science employed by Zografos has been validated by a committee of Greek physicists. Independent engineer Lampis Tomasis was a skeptic, but is now a believer.
LAMPIS TOMASIS, Engineer: I used spectrum analyzers. I used analyzers for the exhaust fumes. I used oscilloscopes and the other instruments as well. And I am convinced now that the instrument is working perfectly, doesn`t produce any dirt to the environment, and the only product produced is hydrogen, which is very clean for the environment.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Two hours after the machine was started, it needed topping up.
PANTELIS KOTSIANIS: We added some fuel to our system, so we depleted it with running everything in the house.
MALCOLM BRABANT: The team behind this project has rejected several multimillion-dollar offers to the rights to the invention, because they want to control what happens to it.
But they are fairly optimistic, and they are talking in terms of this possibly being the start of a new age. But there has to be a word of caution, because there have been several great Greek innovations in the past that have died at birth. They have been strangled by red tape and vested interests.
To obtain an independent assessment, we went to the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, named after one of the most important contributors to modern physics and the atomic age.
JACOB TRIER FREDERIKSEN, Niels Bohr Institute: I`m extremely skeptical of the way that it allegedly is functioning. I seriously doubt that there is excess energy from this device.
MALCOLM BRABANT: Jacob Frederiksen says the invention would be fantastic, if true. But first, he says, the science must be subjected to peer review, and that other experts need to be able to reproduce the results.
He believes that using frequencies to split hydrogen and oxygen is valid, but doubts the process can yield sufficient extra power.
JACOB TRIER FREDERIKSEN: Let`s assume we have this huge molecule of water, right, oxygen and hydrogen bound together in the water molecule. In order to split this, you really need to pull it apart, I mean, split these atoms apart. Now you have spent quite a lot of energy to split them. You can regain part of that energy by combining them by combustion processes.
You already spent the energy to split it, and you only get part of that energy back when you recombine it by burning the hydrogen. And that difference will not be a positive one.
MALCOLM BRABANT: In response, the Greeks say they will happily agree to a peer review once they have obtained a worldwide patent. They also insist their system doesn`t conform to the standard rules of electrolysis, or separating of hydrogen and oxygen.
George Schoell, the German businessman, headed towards home, satisfied with the Greeks` claims that their process uses minimal energy and is highly efficient. He predicted that, if all went well, mini home power stations could go into production within a year.
GEORGE SCHOELL: I was really kind of — about this invention, and it was 100 — or over 100 percent fulfilled. And I`m really satisfied that I did this trip, because I didn`t expect that the machine runs as we have seen as it runs.
PETROS ZOGRAFOS (through translator): I want this invention to spread as far as possible, to the last village in Africa, where the children don`t have electric light to read and study by.
MALCOLM BRABANT: The next test for Petros Zografos and his team will be to build a 200-kilowatt machine, about the size of two fridges, to light up a small Greek island fueled by the surrounding water. He hopes to stage a trial within the next six months.
For the “PBS NewsHour,” I`m Malcolm Brabant in Greece.
The post Power from Tap Water appeared first on Living Off the Grid: Free Yourself.
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Editor’s note: Dec. 27 story on Greek inventor and clean energy
December 28, 2016 at 3:13 PM EST
[Sorry, the video for this story has expired, but you can still read the transcript below.]
Editor’s note: There have been questions raised concerning our report that aired on Dec. 27, 2016 about a Greek inventor who is developing a device that purports to turn water into power without requiring additional energy. Despite a team of Greek scientists praising the research, and the inclusion of an independent scientist dubious of the work, the NewsHour acknowledges that our reporting of this segment should have been more skeptical. Our reporting and research should always ask more questions and seek greater insight. We are examining each step in our process, and we apologize to our audience for the lapses in this report. The PBS NewsHour is dedicated to presenting clear and thorough reporting on developments in science and technology, and we will be following up with more reporting on the important subject of clean energy as soon as possible.
www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/regarding-story-air-tonight-greek-invention/
