You’re not entitled to your opinion

[Syne]

I don't really think that's an overly cynical view, RU. Many bigwigs have admitted their profit motives hinder journalistic integrity (at least in story selection bias). It is hard to be truly informed in such an environment.

[RainbowUnicorn]

I don't really think that's an overly cynical view, RU. Many bigwigs have admitted their profit motives hinder journalistic integrity (at least in story selection bias). It is hard to be truly informed in such an environment.

with media being backroom directed to profit orientated methadology to service a click bait social media landscape it has the feeling of an Ego drven team battle where you must pick a team rather than read facts.
ironically soo i think this undermines intellectual thinking and individuation of ideologies, and tends to strengethen stereo typing personality profiling and more importantly adds fuel to motivate people to choose sides in a bi-partisan reality construct of social association.
(trying not to sound all whiny here given the massive new imputus on normalisng bullying behaviour in global media as a purported social trend[god help us all])

[Secular Sanity]

What unabashed optimism we share.

Yep.  I’ve always said that there’s still hope for you yet.  

[Carol]

Somehow the problem needs to be resolved because it is so destructive, and I like the fact that the owner has left it up to everyone to resolve it.   You can all vote me in or out by giving me a positive point for in or a negative for out

Truth be known, Ms. Carol, the way you’ve been handling yourself forced me to contemplate the idea of whether or not you could be a sockpuppet or a troll.  If you are simply a new member searching for a place to bounce ideas and questions around then I’d suggest that you cut back on the lectures.

I enjoy arguing with Syne.  I don’t dislike him.  I don’t even know him. I don’t know anything about his personal life.  I don’t how old he is, what he looks like, or where he’s from.  It’s not personal.  He’s completely anonymous.  We have different perspectives, that’s all.  I like poking at him because he’s challenging.  In debates, emotional control is the key.  If I can piss him off, it gives me a huge advantage.  You can tell when it happens.  He starts to make uncharacteristic grammar errors…bwahaha.

I’m not fighting with Syne.  We’re just sparring.  Challenging each other’s cognitive biases, opinions, and beliefs.  But just so you know…I’m usually right.  

Stop worrying about what other people think about you and find out what they think about the world in which we live. Put on your hardhat, take off your rose colored glasses, and join us, won’t you, Ms. Carol?  We’ll take you down a few rabbit holes.  I think you’ll like it.  Physics adds a whole new dimension to your perspective.  A rainbow is no longer just a rainbow.  It’s like seeing things again through a child's eyes.

It has occurred to me the reasoning here is about like adolescents goading each other into shoplifting.  I really am not worried about being popular, and that should be obvious as I continue to do what I want.  

Nor do my post have anything to do with liking or not liking total strangers.  They are about how I want to be treated and how I think we should treat each other.  This is not about what the gods say is bad, nor what I say is bad, but the consequences of our behavior.  If I allow someone to disrespect me, it is like allowing someone to throw mud on me, and I am not going to do that.  If we start doing something because others are goading us into it, what is the cost?  It might make us more popular with the group, but if it is something we really don't want to do, we lose respect for ourselves.  No thank you, I am not going there.

However, questioning how things happen, wondering if there is more to reality than is obvious, trying to puzzle how math can reveal so much about the physical world, is a childlike thrill I think I will always have.   I have no fear of not being as a child.   In fact, I like being feminine and think that means being protected, and some call that childlike. I am okay with that.  Laugh when I was young, I smoked, wore black and my boyfriend joined the Hells Angels.  It was very important to me to be tough and ready to kick ass.  I just outgrew that and stopped being proud of being abusive.

I learned about life and became passionate about principles, virtues, and good manners because that is what lifts man to his full potential and means having the good life.   I enjoy a wonderful sense of meaning by talking about this, and I do it to save the world, and so that my great-grandchildren and their children will have liberty and justice.  It is as we create it.

[RainbowUnicorn]

 It is as we create it.

do "we" still have control ?
P.S [can "we" change that which "we" do not have control over ? Is change measured as a form of Control ? Is it necessary to take control of something before you can change it ? Are the masses soo contrived by athoritys hypocrisy that change of any type is al that is required to satiate the propellant need for change be it moral, ethical, cultural or trend?]


# "we" = any specific group or individual exercising as an agent of change to directly choose the change as a process of directorial effect

[Secular Sanity]

It has occurred to me the reasoning here is about like adolescents goading each other into shoplifting.  I really am not worried about being popular, and that should be obvious as I continue to do what I want.  

It is as we create it.

Morning, Ms. Carol and welcome to scivillage.  You said coffee, right?

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Come on!  Drink up!  We’re late! We’re late!

Follow the white rabbit.

[Carol]

 It is as we create it.

do "we" still have control ?
P.S [can "we" change that which "we" do not have control over ? Is change measured as a form of Control ? Is it necessary to take control of something before you can change it ? Are the masses soo contrived by athoritys hypocrisy that change of any type is al that is required to satiate the propellant need for change be it moral, ethical, cultural or trend?]


# "we" = any specific group or individual exercising as an agent of change to directly choose the change as a process of directorial effect

I love your question and wish we had the reputation function so I could give you a point.  

Who do you mean by "we" and control of what?

Some things we can change and some things we can not change, however, population control could make a huge difference, and better education is very important so we actually know how to use science and math for better decision making.  Our failure to have control is mostly because we are not well informed and we no longer believe in ourselves.  Look at this thread!  All the back biting and clawing, and explanations of why we can't do any better than this and trying to convince me this fun and I should become a part of it.   The worst problem we face is we no longer believe in humanity and ourselves as a nation of people working together, and think our private and very limited understanding of reality is accurate and adequate.  Then we can't reason through things because we are precopied with bashing each other!   

Is anyone understanding my explanations of why we need to focus on topics and stop bashing each other?

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It has occurred to me the reasoning here is about like adolescents goading each other into shoplifting.  I really am not worried about being popular, and that should be obvious as I continue to do what I want.  

It is as we create it.

Morning, Ms. Carol and welcome to scivillage.  You said coffee, right?

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Come on!  Drink up!  We’re late! We’re late!

Follow the white rabbit.

Now that put a smile on my face and made my heart warm.  Thank you.  And may we enjoy what happens when we are positive and encouraging. And speaking of being late, you are right! I am supposed to be some place in a half hour and I am still not dressed. Logging out.

[Ben the Donkey]

With regard to the OP... been saying much the same for some time now.
I could log onto that other forum and quote myself.

Could, but won't.

[RainbowUnicorn]

The worst problem we face is we no longer believe in humanity and ourselves as a nation of people working together, and think our private and very limited understanding of reality is accurate and adequate.

indeed.
to win one must divide and conquer.
winning is more important than morality or ethics because once you win you have absolute authority & indemnity.
this message is being played out all over the world at this current time by many different countrys.
at one point such displays and actions would be attributed to 3rd world countrys in a near constant state of civil war with no urbanisation.
now it seems many of the 1st world countrys have sunken to their level.

[Syne]

The worst problem we face is we no longer believe in humanity and ourselves as a nation of people working together, and think our private and very limited understanding of reality is accurate and adequate.

indeed.
to win one must divide and conquer.
winning is more important than morality or ethics because once you win you have absolute authority & indemnity.
this message is being played out all over the world at this current time by many different countrys.
at one point such displays and actions would be attributed to 3rd world countrys in a near constant state of civil war with no urbanisation.
now it seems many of the 1st world countrys have sunken to their level.

That's because leftists have been attacking the national identity for quite some time, claiming it to be the source of all the world's ills. Destroying the family, burning flags, claiming they want to leave the country...but never manage to, President much more interested in touting our flaws than our virtues, etc..