The case against reality + How old & new make the mind ebb & flow

[C C]

But it appears you took offense to what I said?

Sorry about that. I was having a bad day, I guess, which may incite mis-perceiving the style of a troll of the past in some of the occasional remarks and tendencies of any unfortunate newcomer who might chance along at the time.

What's probably really irking me is that I've got a lot that needs to be done offline in the coming weeks, and I keep allowing myself to be distracted by curiosity of what's going on here or at other boards. I just need to outright cut the tie and habit of peering in and stay gone for awhile, darn it. Chucking the mobile devices would really help.

[Carol]

I think there are important differences between animals and rocks.  Picking up from what CC posted, rocks do not act and react.  Rocks are as they are because their substance has been acted upon heat and pressure making them as are they are.  This process is very different from the process of procreation that results in life forms.  I do not think a rock has any kind of sensors, but crystals oh, no...  your line of questioning is pushing me off topic.  I am stopping here because this going off topic, and also I am too tired for all this thinking.

Didn't mean rocks think or react. I'm only saying we are made of the same stuff. Technically speaking, does that make us a rock pile?   .

Well, some people have rocks in their heads?   Seriously isn't that the real mystery, how everything is actually energy in different forms.  The next mystery is consciousness.  

Here is a quote from a post CC made

 According to evolution by natural selection, an organism that sees reality as it is will never be more fit than an organism of equal complexity that sees none of reality but is just tuned to fitness. Never.

Do we agree with that?   I think the roach is probably one of the most endurable life forms.  If we had an atomic war, I think it is more like to survive than humans.   And here we so intelligent, but we may destroy our planet in a few different ways.  How intelligent is that?

[Zinjanthropos]

6 bilion people could perceive reality in 6 billion ways but when you come right back to it, all the perceptions are of only one reality. We still manage to function despite it all. 

I liken it to speech. Take any word and ask 6 billion people how to pronounce it. Does it really matter how many different variations you hear (different perceptions on how it should be pronounced), it's still only one word with the same meaning(s).