Against institutionalism

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Magical Realist Offline
I here voice an observation that ironically places me on the somewhat right side of the political spectrum--that it is hard to effect social change thru institutional power. As was observed once by Clay Shirky: “Institutions will try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution.” This means that the government itself, a paragon of institutional power and domination, has a huge resistance to enacting policies that threaten its own livelihood and mission. It is not just the people who run them. It is the nature of institutionalization itself, which is a structure designed to preserve and maintain certain values and traditions and policies of the past. Which means that while this seems a rightwing stance for me to take, I am in fact motivated only by my own liberal and progressive values of the need for change and even revolt if need be when it comes to our govt serving the needs of the people. As for our educational system, as effective as it seems to be, I have only this point to make:

“Invariably, knowledge dictates life, liberty, and death, but those who have historically occupied the seats of power not only dictate what is defined as knowledge but also dictate what’s included, what’s excluded, and how it is filtered to society vis-à-vis America’s major institutions . . . particularly the educational system; ultimately, shaping the very essence of life.”― Martin Guevara Urbina, Latino Access to Higher Education: Ethnic Realitites and New Directions for the Twenty-first Century
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#2
Syne Offline
Your Oregon governor just signed a bill removing any standardized testing of reading, writing, and math as a requirement for public school graduation.
This means that the public school institution is favoring its graduation rate, which is a very rudimentary and faulty signal of its worth, over students actually being prepared to enter the world as adults. The institution is favoring its own survival over its expressed goal.

But we all know that you're only against government institutions so long as Republicans are in power. The second it resumes pushing your own values, your tune will change.
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#3
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:But we all know that you're only against government institutions so long as Republicans are in power.

Where did I say that? Quote it or admit you're making shit up about me.
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#4
Syne Offline
(Today 02:52 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: I am in fact motivated only by my own liberal and progressive values of the need for change and even revolt if need be when it comes to our govt serving the needs of the people.
You can try to lie about it, but everyone sees it.
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#5
Magical Realist Offline
(Today 04:20 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Today 02:52 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: I am in fact motivated only by my own liberal and progressive values of the need for change and even revolt if need be when it comes to our govt serving the needs of the people.
You can try to lie about it, but everyone sees it.

That doesn't say I am just against institutions during Republican administrations. So you're just making shit up again because you have no intelligent input. Better to remain silent and thought to be ignorant than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.
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#6
Syne Offline
No one ever claimed your post literally said that. So quit fighting your tired strawmen.
Everyone who has read your posts for years simply knows it's true.
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#7
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:No one ever claimed your post literally said that.

Then don't lie and claim that's what I think. If you want to know what I think then ask me. Simple as that.
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#8
Syne Offline
No lie. It's literally what most people think.
You'll just lie. It's who you are.
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#9
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:No lie. It's literally what most people think.

No...you're just making shit up as usual. You have know idea what "most people think."
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#10
Syne Offline
Well, you're known to be oblivious to what you telegraph to others. 9_9
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