Studios & NYT blame audiences for not watching their movie sermons? (cinema network)

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(Jul 1, 2026 06:44 AM)Syne Wrote: It's actually based on a run from the comics... because comic fans are (should've been) a large contingent of the target audience. It's based on Woman of Tomorrow, and the next Superman movie is called Man of Tomorrow.

I was wondering if something like that might be the case. And it was released only a few years ago, so you have to wonder if the reviewers have ever even read it. Not that it would make the film any less derivative, but at least the comic book series could be blamed for that if the movie closely follows its narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_...80%932022)
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(Jul 1, 2026 06:58 AM)C C Wrote:
(Jul 1, 2026 06:44 AM)Syne Wrote: It's actually based on a run from the comics... because comic fans are (should've been) a large contingent of the target audience. It's based on Woman of Tomorrow, and the next Superman movie is called Man of Tomorrow.

I was wondering if something like that might be the case. And it was released only a few years ago, so you have to wonder if the reviewers have ever even read it. Not that it would make the film any less derivative, but at least the comic book series could be blamed for that if the movie closely follows its narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_...80%932022)

While the reviews of the comic run seem pretty positive, the script was written by an actress who only had one previous writing credit for a short.
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(Jul 1, 2026 06:09 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Like any James Gunn related film it is half-comedy or tongue-in-cheek (whatever you want to call it). It's not political.

That's what I thought. There's a trend now in depicting superheroes as more human and unscrupulous figures. A sort of self-conscious deconstruction of the whole genre. [...]

Aside from the unkempt, hipster wannabe look and slaying villains, his "Supergirl" is still pretty tame, though, as is apparently Superman. The Kryptonians are two supes that no one can really divorce from their idealized do-gooder template without causing an apocalyptic uproar. Though an extended television adaptation of Kingdom Come might rattle their image a little bit.

Whereas "unscrupulous" and deconstruction is The Boys in a maximum nutshell, though more so the original Garth Ennis comic book series than the TV adaptation. The former was utterly cynical about superheroes, whereas the latter depicts some of them as half-competent while still portraying them as thoroughly despicable in terms of morals.

In between, of course, was Watchmen -- which historically was just the first mature rendering of supes rather than being anti-supes. The TV shows from The Punisher to Jessica Jones to Titans to Daredevil to Legend were vastly better in character development than the big-budget movies of only two hours plus. We have yet to see what the revivals of Daredevil (etc) are like, though, after they were originally cancelled on Netflix. Broadcast TV Agents of Shield and Gotham as mentions, too, though Gotham really went crazy off the rails at times.
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(Jul 1, 2026 04:30 AM)Yazata Wrote: [...] I don't know what the studio that made this movie was thinking. They dumped some $200 million into making it, so they must have had a target audience in mind. Presumably they crafted their product to appeal to that audience. From the looks of it the movie was intended to appeal to pouty alienated highschool girls. [...]

Yah, Supergirl does not have a built-in Barbie audience. The Supergirl TV show did lure a niche viewership of preteen girls and teeny-boppers back in 2015. But it was small compared to what's needed at the box office. Just enough to keep a series afloat for a while, though the ratings kept gradually dwindling.

People forget that Wonder Woman 1984 was a bomb (didn't make enough money to pay for itself) and had a body-swap rape controversy. That demise was before the global rise of new antisemitism.






(Jul 1, 2026 07:25 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Jul 1, 2026 06:58 AM)C C Wrote:
(Jul 1, 2026 06:44 AM)Syne Wrote: It's actually based on a run from the comics... because comic fans are (should've been) a large contingent of the target audience. It's based on Woman of Tomorrow, and the next Superman movie is called Man of Tomorrow.

I was wondering if something like that might be the case. And it was released only a few years ago, so you have to wonder if the reviewers have ever even read it. Not that it would make the film any less derivative, but at least the comic book series could be blamed for that if the movie closely follows its narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_...80%932022)

While the reviews of the comic run seem pretty positive, the script was written by an actress who only had one previous writing credit for a short.

And even if there was recycling, comic books can probably sometimes get away with a jumble of imitative things that movies can't.
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