History of feminism

[Syne]

Great episode of Rogan's podcast with Rachel Wilson.

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/avY3bV5yxMM

[confused2]

Great episode for the ignorant masses.

Flashback to the 1960s.
Population estimated to be under 3 billion
A lot of wars and famines.

Q.What problem does more people solve?
A.Generally 'more people' is justified by claiming the problems it creates can be solved rather than addressing the question .. what problem is solved .. when the real answer is that it doesn't solve any problems.

Feminism addressed the problems resulting from having children without the support of a male but did not address the more fundamental point of .. why even have children?

Is humanity close to extinction? I don't think so. From a white supremacist pov you need enough whites to stay on top .. so there's that.

Back in the day it seemed likely that by now all work would be done by robots and power would be generated by nuclear fusion .. we were preparing for a leisure society .. totally unprepared for the industrial revolution to continue unchanged for the next 100 years.

The industrial revolution needed (needs) workers and breeders .. a situation unchanged for the last 300 years or more.

What are we doing with all this 'stuff' that industry produces? Ever faster and cheaper.

Even the Internet .. how many people actually learn anything from it? Could we live without it? .. I managed perfectly well for 50 years without it as could (I think) most people.

Edit.. Jeez I nearly forgot consumers .. that's why you need ever more people.

[Magical Realist]

It's naive to think feminism just plopped down into the 60's out of nowhere. I believe it has its historical roots in France, particularly in the writings of philosopher Simone De Beauvior in her book "The Second Sex."

"I'm not against mothers. I am against the ideology which expects every woman to have children, and I'm against the circumstances under which mothers have to have their children."--Simone De Beauvoir

Key Quotes on Motherhood

Core Philosophical Stance

Beauvoir argued in The Second Sex (1949) that motherhood is often used as a tool to confine women to a secondary, "immanent" status, preventing them from achieving "transcendence" through creative or intellectual work. She believed that because society conditions girls from birth to accept childbearing as their ultimate destiny, many women "choose" motherhood not out of genuine desire, but because they have been taught it is the only way to be a "real" woman."

[Syne]

If you watched the video, you wouldn't have to guess about the history. De Beauvoir was "second wave" feminism, and "first wave" feminism stretches back into the 1800s.

In a 1975 interview, Simone De Beauvoir stated that women should not have the choice to stay home and raise their children because, if given the option, too many would choose it, which would push them back into traditional, oppressive domestic roles.
- Gemini

Supposed "intellectualls" have long tried, and failed, to deny human nature, biological imperatives, or evolutionary psychology.