(Apr 30, 2026 09:46 PM)stryder Wrote: (Apr 30, 2026 07:41 PM)Syne Wrote: So since I already posted the mafia usage of 86, do you think that implicates me? @_@
Probably not, because that would be stupid.
And where have you been parroting it from? Trump of course. Otherwise you'd likely not know yourself.
No, I was aware of other uses of the term before Trump said it.
Military
1991 (Earliest "Killing" Reference): The New York Times (February 3, 1991) cited the term as military jargon for "killed in action" in an article by John Kifner.
Movies
The Terminator (1984): In an early draft of the script (though famously cut or altered in various versions), there were references to "86-ing" a target.
Grosse Pointe Blank (1997): In this dark comedy about a hitman, the term is used in the context of "eliminating" a target during professional shop talk between assassins.
American Psycho (2000): Patrick Bateman uses the term metaphorically to describe getting rid of people or things that no longer serve his social status, though it borders on his murderous intent.
Television
Get Smart (1965–1970): The lead character's name, Agent 86 (Maxwell Smart), is a pun. While he is a secret agent who "eliminates" threats, the creator Mel Brooks stated the name was chosen because Smart was always "86-ing" (ruining) his own missions.
The West Wing (1999–2006): In political "war room" scenes, characters sometimes use "86" to mean killing a bill or ending a political career, often using the violent undertone of the word to show how ruthless they are.
Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul: While they mostly use authentic cartel slang, characters occasionally use "86" to mean getting rid of a person (either by firing them or, implicitly, by "disappearing" them).
- Gemini