Is madness Trump's method?

#11
confused2 Offline
Having your war fleet at anchor, doing nothing, costing $1B a day (?) .. is the art of the deal.
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#12
Syne Offline
(Apr 11, 2026 09:49 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Calling human beings of another culture "savages" is not understanding them at all. That's what they called Native Americans while they were slaughtering them. It's what they called Africans before they enslaved them. Congratulations. You're continuing a fine tradition of hateful dehumanization there.

The Iranian regime and its proxies have repeatedly and consistently proven that they never negotiate in good faith, use human shields and intentionally target civilians (war crimes), wantonly murder civilians in territory they occupy, etc..

What part of that do you not comprehend as savage? @_@

That's not using the term as an empty ad hom, it's using it as an objective descriptor of actual behavior.

But again, you prove that you think in racist, dehumanizing terms, as those are the only way you interpret language.

(Apr 11, 2026 10:46 PM)confused2 Wrote: Having your war fleet at anchor, doing nothing, costing $1B a day (?) .. is the art of the deal.

According to the left, here and abroad, it would be very wrong for Trump to do what is necessary to bring the regime to heel. But if he tries to do a ceasefire, he's also wrong.

Make up your mind. 9_9
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#13
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:The Iranian regime and its proxies have repeatedly and consistently proven that they never negotiate in good faith, use human shields and intentionally target civilians (war crimes), wantonly murder civilians in territory they occupy, etc..

Ahh..the slippery use of abstractions, as if the "Iranian regime" is this one same evil entity who did all these things without provocation. Pretty sure moral responsibility can't be assigned to an organization that has regularly changed hands over many decades. Shall we also assign blame to the current American govt for the slaughter of native Americans and for Hiroshima?

Quote:That's not using the term as an empty ad hom, it's using it as an objective descriptor of actual behavior.

It's worse than either a mere ad hom or a descriptor. It's a traditionally-used label employed to dehumanize non-white cultures to justify killing them or colonizing or using them in some way for its own profit. And it reduces them to animals incapable of reason or moral judgement.

..."savage" is widely considered a racial slur and a dehumanizing term when used to describe people, particularly Indigenous and Black individuals. It was historically employed by European settlers to justify colonialism, slavery, and the denial of rights by painting non-white people as uncivilized.

Historical Context: It was used for centuries as a dehumanizing term to refer to Indigenous peoples, equating them to wild animals or "noble savages".

Colonial Use: The word was used in European literature and legal documents to justify, "scientific racism," and to label Native Americans as uncivilized."
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#14
Syne Offline
(Apr 11, 2026 11:02 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:The Iranian regime and its proxies have repeatedly and consistently proven that they never negotiate in good faith, use human shields and intentionally target civilians (war crimes), wantonly murder civilians in territory they occupy, etc..

Ahh..the slippery use of abstractions, as if the "Iranian regime" is this one same evil entity who did all these things without provocation. Pretty sure moral responsibility can't be assigned to an organization that has regularly changed hands over many decades. Shall we also assign blame to the American govt for the slaughter of native Americans and for Hiroshima?
Same ideology, MO, and expressly stated goals, naive child.
No, there has not been provocations that justify those actions. Your relative morality blinds you to significant fundamental differences between cultures.

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Quote:That's not using the term as an empty ad hom, it's using it as an objective descriptor of actual behavior.

It's worse than either a mere ad hom or a descriptor. It's a traditionally-used label employed to dehumanize non-white cultures to justify killing them or colonizing or using them in some way for its own profit. And it reduces them to animals incapable of reason or moral judgement.

..."savage" is widely considered a racial slur and a dehumanizing term when used to describe people, particularly Indigenous and Black individuals. It was historically employed by European settlers to justify colonialism, slavery, and the denial of rights by painting non-white people as uncivilized.

Historical Context: It was used for centuries as a dehumanizing term to refer to Indigenous peoples, equating them to wild animals or "noble savages".

Colonial Use: The word was used in European literature and legal documents to justify, "scientific racism," and to label Native Americans as uncivilized."
See, you keep demanding that terms MUST be racist and dehumanizing... like a racist dehumanizer. @_@
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#15
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:See, you keep demanding that terms MUST be racist and dehumanizing... like a racist dehumanizer

I'm not demanding anything. It just happens to be the case, which a 2 minute search on Google AI totally confirmed:

"savage" is widely considered a racial slur and a dehumanizing term when used to describe people,"
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#16
Syne Offline
(Apr 11, 2026 11:31 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:See, you keep demanding that terms MUST be racist and dehumanizing... like a racist dehumanizer

I'm not demanding anything. It just happens to be the case, which a 2 minute search on Google AI totally confirmed:

"savage" is widely considered a racial slur and a dehumanizing term when used to describe people,"

The intellectually honest don't feel the need to constantly insist on strawmanning every argument.
But I'll give you a change to look up other definitions that your cherry-picked one. Won't be holding my breath. 9_9
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#17
Magical Realist Offline
Nope..not going to cherry-pick some obscure definition that lets you off the hook. Own your own hate speech you disgusting racist.
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#18
Syne Offline
I knew you wouldn't have the intellectual honesty to question your own cherry-picking. Projecting about cherry-picking is rich though.
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