Trump wants Greenland

#11
Magical Realist Offline
NATO's doing a fine job protecting Denmark from Russia. Rubio is now backpedaling and saying they only want to BUY Greenland not invade it. He should talk to Trump, who ominously threatened on live TV that they "will get it one way or another". Kind of a shitty thing to say if you're trying to make a deal with Denmark.
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#12
Syne Offline

Yes, NATO forces are stationed in Greenland, though they primarily consist of U.S. and Danish personnel rather than a multinational NATO-branded contingent.
As of January 2026, the military presence in Greenland includes:

U.S. Personnel: Approximately 200 to 650 personnel (including active-duty Air Force, Space Force, and contractors) are permanently stationed at Pituffik Space Base (formerly Thule Air Base). Their primary mission is operating early warning radar systems for missile defense.
Danish Personnel: Denmark maintains sovereignty and defense via its Joint Arctic Command, headquartered in Nuuk. Units include the Sirius Dog Sled Patrol, an elite naval unit that patrols the remote eastern wilderness.
NATO Exercises: While permanent stations are limited to U.S. and Danish forces, other NATO allies frequently participate in major exercises. For example, in September 2025, more than 550 troops from Denmark, France, Germany, Norway, and Sweden (a new NATO member) conducted the "Arctic Light" exercise in Greenland.
- Google AI

So only a permanent US military presence... oh, and Denmark's Sirius Dog Sled Patrol.
As for Joint Arctic Command:

The permanent Joint Arctic Command (JACMD) is a relatively small force, primarily focused on sovereignty assertion, surveillance, and search and rescue.
As of January 2026, the force size is approximately:

Permanent Personnel: Roughly 130 civilian and military staff.
Headquarters (Nuuk): Approximately 80 employees are based at the headquarters in Greenland's capital, Nuuk.
Sirius Dog Sled Patrol: This elite unit, headquartered at Station Daneborg, consists of approximately 12 to 14 members who conduct long-range reconnaissance across the remote National Park in North and East Greenland.
Station Personnel: Small teams are also stationed at other remote sites, including Station Nord, Station Kangerlussuaq, and Station Mestersvig.
Maritime Assets: The command typically operates four inspection vessels and a few helicopters and maritime patrol aircraft.
- Google AI

Wow, a formidable force of a whopping 250 people.
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#13
Yazata Offline
The Danish Prime Minister said that if the United States seized Greenland, it would be the end of NATO.

She shouldn't be trying to sell the idea of a seizure so hard.

US Senator John Fetterman (just about the only Democrat who isn't crazy) wrote:

https://x.com/SenFettermanPA/status/2008958683632353758

"I believe Greenland has massive strategic benefits for the United States.

I do not support taking it by force.

America is not a bully.

Ideally, we purchase it—similar to our purchases of Alaska or the Louisiana Purchase.

Acquiring Greenland is a many decades old conversation."

That's basically my opinion on the matter as well.
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#14
Syne Offline
(Jan 8, 2026 03:57 AM)Yazata Wrote: The Danish Prime Minister said that if the United States seized Greenland, it would be the end of NATO.

She shouldn't be trying to sell the idea of a seizure so hard.

Yep.
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#15
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Acquiring Greenland is a many decades old conversation."

Right. Back during the Cold War when we were all paranoid Russia would invade at any minute. It did not. I was stationed at NAS Adak AK in 1994-95 and was the workcenter supervisor of the Mt.
Moffet transmitter site. They shut the base down in 1997 because of the end of the Cold War. Nobody is needed to scan the arctic seas for Russian warships. We don't need to station our young people in an arctic wasteland to man radars/missiles for detecting Russian ships. They're simply not there. They're in Ukraine. Trump wants to steal Greenland's oil just as he did Venezuela. And Denmark as a sovereign state has no obligation to give it to him, particularly after his obnoxious threats against them.
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#16
stryder Offline
All of it for the most part is just noise. It's how to continue to puppeteer Legacy media into repeating hoax shit.

I mean it has a use, while everyone is engage about their concerns on Greenland it acts like a rolling block for other stories and keeps people from conjecturing on other subjects.

If it was to be taken seriously, then you should think a bit further:

Sticking further bases on Greenland (if the Security angle was to be considered) doesn't reduce the daft shit that Putin will likely do, after all he's a bonehead.
So rather than sitting with a defensive position that might aid in the inevitable problem with Russia, it makes more sense just to push Russia as an objective now so it's not a threat. Thereby negating the need to have Greenland at all.

If it's just about raw resources... then Tender for licensing access to them, you don't need to steal a whole country just to access resources. If you want to make out that you can make deals then make a fucking deal, don't be a fucking Pirate wannabe.

If anything the real reason why Trump wants Greenland is so he can actually blockade Canada. Sure there is the control over the North West passage as well as when it's open it's a shorter route for Europe than going through Egypt and passing Yemen/Somalia. (Although International law for seafaring would suggest allowing free navigation)
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#17
Syne Offline
(Jan 8, 2026 05:06 PM)stryder Wrote: Sticking further bases on Greenland (if the Security angle was to be considered) doesn't reduce the daft shit that Putin will likely do, after all he's a bonehead.
So rather than sitting with a defensive position that might aid in the inevitable problem with Russia, it makes more sense just to push Russia as an objective now so it's not a threat.  Thereby negating the need to have Greenland at all.

If it's just about raw resources... then Tender for licensing access to them, you don't need to steal a whole country just to access resources.  If you want to make out that you can make deals then make a fucking deal, don't be a fucking Pirate wannabe.

If anything the real reason why Trump wants Greenland is so he can actually blockade Canada.  Sure there is the control over the North West passage as well as when it's open it's a shorter route for Europe than going through Egypt and passing Yemen/Somalia.  (Although International law for seafaring would suggest allowing free navigation)

All complete nonsense. If Putin is such a bonehead, why hasn't the UK and Europe already taken care of him? You know, if it's so easy to "push Russia as an objective now." Or are you just wanting to throw Americans at the meat-grinder like you've been happy doing with Ukraine?
Putin doesn't want direct conflict with the US any more than we do. The adults in the room know that's a very bad idea with nuclear powers, especially if one may be unhinged enough to use them.
And if it's not Russia, it will be China. So if you really want to negate the strategic need for Greenland, you're flat out proposing WWIII.

Denmark is also not drilling in Greenland due to their climate policies, which would also preclude selling leases. IOW, no deal to be had.

Canada is neither a significant military nor economic force in the world. They couldn't stop or control movement through the Northwest Passage if they wanted to.
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#18
stryder Offline
(Jan 8, 2026 10:22 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Jan 8, 2026 05:06 PM)stryder Wrote: Sticking further bases on Greenland (if the Security angle was to be considered) doesn't reduce the daft shit that Putin will likely do, after all he's a bonehead.
So rather than sitting with a defensive position that might aid in the inevitable problem with Russia, it makes more sense just to push Russia as an objective now so it's not a threat.  Thereby negating the need to have Greenland at all.

If it's just about raw resources... then Tender for licensing access to them, you don't need to steal a whole country just to access resources.  If you want to make out that you can make deals then make a fucking deal, don't be a fucking Pirate wannabe.

If anything the real reason why Trump wants Greenland is so he can actually blockade Canada.  Sure there is the control over the North West passage as well as when it's open it's a shorter route for Europe than going through Egypt and passing Yemen/Somalia.  (Although International law for seafaring would suggest allowing free navigation)

All complete nonsense. If Putin is such a bonehead, why hasn't the UK and Europe already taken care of him? You know, if it's so easy to "push Russia as an objective now." Or are you just wanting to throw Americans at the meat-grinder like you've been happy doing with Ukraine?
Putin doesn't want direct conflict with the US any more than we do. The adults in the room know that's a very bad idea with nuclear powers, especially if one may be unhinged enough to use them.
And if it's not Russia, it will be China. So if you really want to negate the strategic need for Greenland, you're flat out proposing WWIII.

Denmark is also not drilling in Greenland due to their climate policies, which would also preclude selling leases. IOW, no deal to be had.

Canada is neither a significant military nor economic force in the world. They couldn't stop or control movement through the Northwest Passage if they wanted to.

Heres a point for you to consider Syne. At the end of World War II, the allies got together to work out the territory arrangement of who should deal with Germany et al.

The problem was the allies didn't agree on things, in fact the US was hostile to control of anything being in the hands of the Russians (Some concluded it was down to losing the race to Berlin as the Russians got their first)

Those problems didn't stop at the armistice table, it lead to the Cold War. (an American Invention)

I guess you could say if Trump goes too far, he will be inventing another Cold War, just with different people on eitherside.
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#19
Syne Offline
So you'd rather have Russian forces stationed in Europe?
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