Hegseth boat strike (Trump administration brewing)

[Syne]

I've already shown where everyone in the supply chain can be prosecuted for murder over drug ODs, and where there's no such thing for legally sold guns.
I guess some people can't understand very very simple facts. Just bias that runs counter to reality. 9_9

[Magical Realist]

I've already shown where everyone in the supply chain can be prosecuted for murder over drug ODs, and where there's no such thing for legally sold guns.

There should be prosecution for everyone in the supply chain of drugs. And that's why killing smugglers and pushers outright is murder. Just like we don't kill gun sellers for selling a gun used in a murder. You lose again.

[Syne]

Again, repeatedly and completely ignoring that Obama did the same. I guess quelling that cognitive dissonance is a powerful urge. 9_9

Canada followed suit with the U.S., listing seven transnational criminal organizations as terrorist entities under Canadian criminal law in February 2025.
Historically, the idea of designating cartels as terrorists had been debated for years, with some officials previously arguing against it, citing the potential for straining U.S.-Mexico relations and the differing definitions of "terrorism" (which typically involves political motivation, whereas cartels are primarily profit-driven criminal enterprises). However, recent actions by the cartels involving mass violence, kidnappings, and attacks on officials have led to their formal classification as terrorist organizations.
- Google AI

[Magical Realist]

LOL Jumping around and changing the subject when I refute your point. Once again, a smuggler is not a terrorist as defined as "a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." They are simply selling drugs to make money off of them. Killing their customers is the last thing they want. And also once again, the sentence for smuggling is prison time, never death. Again, once again, you lose.

"The following are general guidelines for a first federal drug smuggling offense involving significant quantities of common drugs:

Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, Fentanyl (large quantities): Not less than 10 years, up to life imprisonment.

Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, Fentanyl (smaller quantities): Not less than 5 years, up to 40 years imprisonment.

Marijuana (100 kg to 999 kg): Not less than 5 years, up to 40 years imprisonment.

Other Schedule III Substances: Up to 10 years imprisonment."

[Syne]

I just gave you the reasoning behind designating cartels are terrorists. Can't help it if you don't like what both the US and Canada has done.

Fentanyl is so much cheaper to make that the huge profits margins for cartels outweigh the concerns for repeat business. And the sentence for drug induced homicide can be death.

Approximately two-thirds of U.S. states have laws that allow for criminal charges, such as murder, manslaughter, or a specific "death by distribution" offense, when someone provides drugs that result in a fatal overdose.
- Google AI

[Magical Realist]

I just gave you the reasoning behind designating cartels are terrorists. Can't help it if you don't like what both the US and Canada has done.

A smuggler isn't a cartel. Often they are impoverished victims themselves forced to work for the cartel by threats of violence to their family. Which certainly doesn't meet the criteria for terrorist as I showed.

Fentanyl is so much cheaper to make that the huge profits margins for cartels outweigh the concerns for repeat business. And the sentence for drug induced homicide can be death.

There's no way to track a smuggler's drugs to the death of an overdose somewhere in the US weeks later. So that they deserve to be killed immediately for a death that hasn't even happened yet is complete and utter bullshit. Once again you lose.

Approximately two-thirds of U.S. states

Talking about federal law here. The federal penalties for drug trafficking never involve death:

"The following are general guidelines for a first federal drug smuggling offense involving significant quantities of common drugs:

Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, Fentanyl (large quantities): Not less than 10 years, up to life imprisonment.

Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, Fentanyl (smaller quantities): Not less than 5 years, up to 40 years imprisonment.

Marijuana (100 kg to 999 kg): Not less than 5 years, up to 40 years imprisonment.

Other Schedule III Substances: Up to 10 years imprisonment."

[Syne]

You can keep arguing against US and Canadian terrorist designations, but it's a pointless endeavor.
Between states legally putting drug dealers to death and countries designating cartel members as terrorists, the military actions are completely justified... by the precedent set by Obama.

Unlike you, I'm not interested in winning. Those are just the facts.

[Magical Realist]

Unlike you, I'm not interested in winning. Those are just the facts.

I posted the penalties for smuggling under US Federal law. None involve killing them without due process. None involved killing them WITH due process. You have nothing more to argue. You're done.

[Syne]

You keep ignoring facts that are inconvenient to your beliefs. That's a you problem.

1) US and Canada designates cartels as terrorists.
2) Obama set precedent of double-tap strikes to ensure terrorist targets are killed, even not knowing who the targets were.

Don't like those facts? Oh well. 9_9

[stryder]

Narco-terrorism is far-right capitalism. It's people making money without giving a shit about the law, who they hurt (They sell to who evers buying) or how they go about doing it.
I suppose it could be classed as ultra-capitalism, when capitalism is left unchecked.

It's not the same as Terrorism, as thats usually a bunch of people conspiring to burn-down and destroy a particular group and inflict as many causalities as possible (They tend to only make money to fund further attacks).

The other main point between the two is narco-terrorism can be brought to heel by the law, where as terrorism is only fought through it's ultimate destruction.